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    PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:44 pm    Post subject: Response to the Attack of Eric Krieg on Betavoltaic Reply with quote

    Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:35:29 -0400
    From: "eric" <eric@v...>
    Subject: Fw: response to the Attack of Eric Krieg on Betavoltaic now posted

    The following person is known for trying to intimidate people who say
    anything about his Betavolt company. I really don't want to go through
    their request to do a background investigation on me to look at the device -
    in fact, with their Scientology-like tactics, I don't think I want to go on
    trying to help them get real proof. Perhaps someone else may want to
    look at their evidence or go there in person. I post the following with
    permission:


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Michael McDonnough" <vortex@p...>
    To: "eric " <eric@v...>
    Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 6:34 PM
    Subject: RE: response to the Attack of Eric Krieg on Betavoltaic now posted


    > eric,
    > See me point by point below.
    >
    > ___________________________________________________________
    >
    > (EK)I try to live my life in a moral way.
    >
    > (MM)Then you should marry that girl you are living with.
    >
    > (EK)I have a question about your
    > statement saying I am doing harrassing: Could you explain to me
    > how I'm harrassing you by trying to lower the bar for my prize
    > condition in an attempt to make it easier for you to get free money
    > and validation from me?
    >
    > (MM) Very simply Eric, by offering to change the parameters of the test to
    > include us you are making exceptions to include an unqualified candidate.
    > This sets us up for mocking and credulity by your so called experts. We
    > should not have come under this level of attack in the first place. You just
    > got mad because I suggested that Critics are not worth much because they
    > invent nothing, create nothing, and produce nothing. You got mad I think at
    > this private comment and wrote your negative comments to the web for the
    > public out of spite. You are a spiteful and vindictive man in my opinion,
    > not a moral person at all.
    >
    > (EK)Are you open to having my try to find some credible 3rd party person
    > meet your security conditions and go on site to have a look at a
    > demonstration?
    >
    > (MM)Sure but not that it matters as far as our investigation on you is
    > concerned. It is already underway and will be completed in about a week.
    > After that you or your qualified expert will be invited to view the
    > technology.
    >
    >
    > (EK)Could you give me contact information for your consoul who
    > commented on my site? I'd like to talk to him.
    >
    > (MM) They say you will hear from them soon enough. It will be formal it
    > seems.
    >
    > (EK)Could you tell me how much input power is needed to get 50 watts
    > out, what form the 50 watts is and for how long you have sustained it?
    > Also, I am not qualified to review spectroscopy evidence - could you
    > tell me what independent person you have gotten to review it or if I
    > could talk to them?
    >
    > (MM) I would be happy to fax you the independent analytical lab report on
    > the technology. We are far enough along that I do not fear someone getting
    > in the middle of my deal for the technology. That is the only reason I have
    > withheld the name of the inventor from the public. I needed the deal closed
    > and the payments underway, then I can discuss who discovered the technology
    > and what their IP covers. The lab report has the inventor name on it so it
    > has been withheld from all but the parties paying for the assignment of the
    > technology to BVI.
    >
    > (MM) The test ran for an hour and the average reading was 11 watts input and
    > 71 watts output so I guess it is more like 60 Watts output than 50. The
    > report was done by Applied Technical Services Inc. in Marietta GA
    > 770-514-3288, the test was paid for by AMDG Scientific Corp. The test
    > reference number is M21774 and is dated Oct. 9th 2001, I can and will fax a
    > copy to you if need be.
    >
    > (MM) As far as the spectroscopy is concerned it was done by several labs.
    > The first one was done with AMDG's spectroscopic equipment. It was verified
    > by Columbia University. I have a copy of that as well if you would like me
    > to fax it to you.
    >
    > (EK)Please note that I do want my audience to have the benefit of
    > hearing your response to my points. I am trying to function in the
    > capacity of a journalist.
    >
    > (MM) The fact remains Eric, that you are not a journalist. You are not
    > protected by a world class legal team like the Washington Post or the New
    > York Times. You are just Eric Krieg, electrical engineer and amateur critic
    > from Pennsylvania.
    > Feel free to make my comments known to your free energy critics sewing
    > circle if you like. I ask you to take your pages down on my company because
    > you are damaging us un-failry, at least until you could fairly and justly
    > obtain an opinion by direct observation. Instead you take pot-shots from the
    > side lines with your so called experts. The one that could not even spell
    > beryllium but could give opinions on its fusion to magnesium and hydrogen in
    > a plasma vortex.
    >
    > The same one that said that fusion could not be done without a billion
    > dollars in equipment at a government lab. Tell that to the people at
    > www.fusor.net and they will tell you that your so called expert is dead
    > wrong. Nearly the whole group have table top fusion devices that produce
    > plasma based fusion for thousands not billions of dollars. Clearly this
    > person Shawn can not judge the workability of our technology so do not
    > bother bringing this person along.
    >
    > Michael McDonnough
    >
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