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A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered
Posted on Saturday, February 01, 2003 @ 02:19:51 UTC by vlad
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Until we get the official transcript of the interview Dr. Steven Greer gave to George Noory on Coast to Coast last night, for those who didn’t hear it, are not subscribers to the StreamLink service, or have problems listening to the show through the link provided on SEASPower.com or DisclosureProject.org sites here is reasonable comment found on the net.
A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered!
Presented 1/30/02 by Dr. Steven M. Greer PhD
This is as much like ZPE or HD - as described tonight on C2C by Dr. Greer - as you can get!
DESCRIPTION: (note: Discretion is required at present on all details)
Size: Small enough to be picked up by one hand.
Shape: Rectangular ?
Appearance: Transparent casing (no moving parts were mentioned)
How does it work?: Dr. Greer picked it up and took the device outside to the sidewalk. He and his scientific team (Prof. Ted Loder and others unnamed) were able to independently hook it up with their own test equipment and the device was able to draw it's initiating power from the ambient air (possibly solar cells, but it was left unanswered purposely) just miliwatts of input energy - then the device came on and put out hundreds of watts of electrical power on its own.
Dr. Greer mentioned that a 300 watt light bulb, also a 100 watt light bulb, an electrical fan, and other appliances were plugged into the outlets provided - all at the same time - without overdrawing the power output of the device.
Over the years Dr. Greer has seen other over-unity devices that could produce more energy than was initially used to start its output but nothing that could do what this device can. Also, other devices seen in the past were such that they were far from production ready and would require millions of dollars to further develop to bring them to market.
This device, on the contrary is small, and Dr. Greer's team was able to verify for themselves the reality of its authenticity. No trickery or outside power sources were detected or discovered to be present in its action.
Dr. Greer mentioned that he was going on C2C to inform a large number of enthusiasts who could become a protective body of knowers that would protect both himself and the inventor from harm from the PTB. He asked that if anything should happen to the device (suppression, seizure, etc) or to himself or the inventor between now and the next few months when all the vetting is to be accomplished, that he would want 'us' to march in the streets to get it back out in public and to bring it online in the marketplace.
He mentioned that to date this inventor has not been harassed or threatened. Greer also mentioned that meeting this inventor was a revelation akin to meeting someone like Tesla; and he feels this man (unnamed for now) who has independently discovered how to capture the ZPE from the ambient vacuum of the space of air that we are surrounded by here on earth, is a natural genius, the kind that did not copy or learn this from another person, but self- discovered the process on his own thru several years of R&D.
The device was shown freely and fully to Greer's team and nothing was omitted in the exchange of disclosure about its functionality.
The next step is to properly run the reproducibility construction independent from the inventor, and once that is accomplished with success, the devices will be tested in at least 3 independent governmental and university level labs for verification of production and output, etc.
Let's all pray that this is the device that will bring about the balance of power in the whole world. And with wisdom and security will be distributed to the far reaches of the earth for ALL PEOPLE!
PS: Dr. Greer says he is willing to take a bullet for this IF it's finally vetted fully and proves to be the very device he's been looking for, AND he says there is NO amount of money that could entice him to sell it or allow the PTB to suppress it since he feels this is for our children and generations of their children to come.
Lastly, Greer has also hooked up with another inventor who can retrofit gas powered internal combustion engines in today's cars with a simple system that plugs right into the sparkplug holes of current cars and trucks that allows it to run on hydrogen fuel. With such a retrofit our cars could be completely converted to hydrogen immediately, as the new ZPE powered devices are further developed and begin rolling off the manufacturers conveyor belts by early 2004 and the hydrogen powered vehicles could be fully converted to ZPE/HD power!
Quite a new world we can look forward to, and very soon! Let's hope and pray that this is it! This could be our finest hour!
Anyone want to speculate about how this will change the way we are now considering going into space and to Mars?!
Anthony Mark House
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Saturday, February 01, 2003 @ 04:31:05 UTC | Hello
Dan LaRochelle gave following link where you can hear for free. Thanks to you and Dan.
http://www.disclosureproject.com
Announcement of promising new energy device found.
Archive of 1/30-31/03 program. [Windows Media Player format - about 35 minutes]
http://www.netro.ca/asxfiles/disclosure/coasttocoast1_31_2003.asx
Kind Regards
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 1) by Rob (rob@zpenergy.com) on Saturday, February 01, 2003 @ 15:39:06 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) http://www.zpenergy.com | I wouldn't want to be in the 'naysayer's shoes right now. Interestingly enough, a while ago I had a discussion or rather an argument with a 'naysayer' on the possibility of extracting useful energy from the ZPE field. In this correspondence, at one time I referred to the scientific establishments failure to recognize the Wright brothers. He found it amusing that all 'free-energy crackpots' refer to that chapter of failure of the scientific establishment.
And he's quite right. It is amusing. Hilarious even. Especially in the light of this new discovery.
So, history repeats itself: It is the independent researcher/innovator that brings the world forward and the scientific establishment does what it can to prevent progress outside of the scientific dogma.
It'll be interesting to see what counter measures the 'naysayers' and the scientific establishment will come up with now. Because they will come up with something. They cannot afford to stand in the shade of ridicule.
/Rob
zpenergy.com
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 1) by Mtntime on Saturday, March 08, 2003 @ 20:03:13 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) | dear Mr.Greer I'm located in northern British Columbia, we need this technology here !
Everyone seems to be selling a book like MR. Bearden or trying to get rich like MR.Lee and some others. If this is genuine come up here and let us help you make a thousand or so and give them away to people that need them. I read what you say but I've been suckered before,,, If you really believe this is for our children and not just a scam let us help you make it and get it out there .Talk is cheap !!! Are you like the rest of them ?? |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Monday, May 12, 2003 @ 21:18:50 UTC | I apologize for not reading far in this thread, but the 'device' isn't mysterious at all. The inventor is Thomas Bearden, and there is plenty of information about it when you look.
The story about 'the scientific community' not recognizing the Wright brothers is just hooey. The real situation was that the Wrights flew in 1903, then went into seclusion about the idea in order to perfect their patent claims with their lawyer. This took a couple of years, then they brought out the plane and demonstrated it once they were certain that they had patent protection. Meanwhile, the world just didn't believe it, and they liked it that way. |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Saturday, February 01, 2003 @ 17:48:58 UTC | I'm missing the point. Please, someone enlighten me.
I first heard about him in Jan 1999, about the time NCAS was
finishing up the U of Colorado UFO report to go on-line. Among the claims he made was one to the effect that a company he had connections to was working on an over-unity generator, that they had produced a prototype, and that he had personally observed the prototype melt itself down because the energy output went out of control.
Why hasn't an improved prototype been displayed?
No independent lab or individuals with credentials have seen or
verfied that his device exists. No independent test results have
been offered.
If I'm not mistaken Greer is into UFOs and reverse engineering of
equipment taken from these UFOs.
What is all the excitement about?????????? |
Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 1) by vlad on Sunday, February 02, 2003 @ 02:16:25 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) http://www.zpenergy.com | | About a year ago, when SEAS came to ZPEnergy.com to announce their formation, I asked Jonathan Kolber, at that time Vice President, Planning and Product Development, Space Energy Access Systems, Inc., what happened with the device Dr. Greer was talking about on Art Bell show. He told me the company Dr. Greer was working with proved to be crooked; and that mishap taught him a lot about testing over unity devices, which will account for much of their rigor now. He did not tell me the company’s name but he mentioned Dr. Greer took it over, confirmed the fraud, and then took it out of business.
We should not stigmatize those who have tried and been unsuccessful. In fact, many venture capitalists are more, not less, likely to invest in somebody who has failed with an earlier startup than in someone who is launching his or her first company. The real disappointment is when people do not learn from their mistakes. I do not believe Dr. Greer and those around him are such kind of people.
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Monday, February 03, 2003 @ 15:19:47 UTC | Vlad,
Greer has no credentials in the Energy market. He uses other peoples money
to promote his agenda. He has yet to display anything of value to the Energy
field.
DTB |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 1) by Doug on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 @ 18:48:11 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) | What exactly are you trying to say? That because he hasn't yet done so, that he "isn't QUALIFIED?". Poopycock.
Dr Greer has some high powered, well educated people on SEAS board of advisors - their names and credentials are on the website (www.seaspower.com/ ). He also speaks the plain truth when he talks about the meetings he has with military officials and so forth; and look at the military witnesses he has PRODUCED for the Disclosure project.
Steven Greer is nobody's fool.
Doug |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Monday, February 03, 2003 @ 00:26:49 UTC | If you listened to the audio....
They are working on getting the device manufactured and tested. |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Monday, February 03, 2003 @ 15:23:04 UTC | How many years has been stating that he's trying to get a device manfactured
and into the market? It's all hype. Buy more audios and books to support his lfiestyle.
DTB
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Monday, February 03, 2003 @ 20:51:24 UTC | Its so hard to say if Greer is for real or the ultimate con until we see something. I had thought for awhile that DP was just a way to placate the ufologists...he says he's willing to take a bullet and thats great but why is he still alive? I agree that the bad guys are in a catch 22 if Greer were to be assasinated but with non-local emp weapons that isn't a problem.
The ambassador to the universe training session he is doing costs $650 and requires you to sign a waiver in case you disappear or die, whats up with that? I thought the ET's (the ones he deals with) were friendly.
I hate to use the word Illuminati, I save that for other boards as this one needs all the sanity it can muster for the public, but lets assume they do exist.
Greer himself asserts they do...
Could Greer be a "double agent" between good and evil factions? Or is he just another New Age Guru?
If he has already met with black budget folks who know the "secrets" of FE/AG why did he bother with the Z-Prize...wait, he did answer that in the interview, to "keep it clean". I don't know, If I was in his position and had access to that knowledge I wouldn't care if I had to rip off Lockheed or ______ haven't they all been ripping off inventors and patent pooling?
I sent in all my IP for the Z-Prize under an NDA, how do I know they didn't just build something based on my or some other inventors IP and make up the meeting with the inventor? That way they wouldn't have to mess with royalties etc,...
Guess we'll just have to wait and see... |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 1) by vrilian on Thursday, February 06, 2003 @ 00:03:02 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) http://www.oddamerica.com | The device has yet to pass the reproducibility test, then it will go through rigorous vetting in 3 pre-chosen independent university and governmental labs for evaluation.
From there if all works to satisfaction the device will be introduced into the public sector.
Dr. Greer is an honest, and capable man. The excitement is that our thwarted history is about to change in profound ways should all of this workout.
vrilian |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Friday, February 07, 2003 @ 13:24:12 UTC | | You have stated your opinions but you haven't present the facts! |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 1) by Tom on Saturday, February 08, 2003 @ 00:32:18 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) | | If you listen to the radio broadcast of Jan 2003 you will find this is the first device that did't melt down.And produced over 400 watts at 60Hz with no power source and no battery for as long as you would like ! That's pretty amazing to me. |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Saturday, February 08, 2003 @ 14:58:36 UTC | It would be pretty amazing to me if a panel or group of disintrested parties
with scientific backgrounds were to independently test and verify this dubious
claims. |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Sunday, February 09, 2003 @ 20:29:16 UTC | | Yeah, just let us know when a device is available for purchase at Walmart. |
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Re: Testing it? (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Monday, February 24, 2003 @ 20:19:20 UTC | That, my friend, is the whole point. Dr Greer has pre-arranged just such testing, with reputable independent organizations.
For a clue, just have a proper look at his SEASPOWER website (www.seaspower.com/ ) and see the list of his technical advisors, and his plans. This is NOT some mug's outfit; they are all experienced, knowledgeable people.
Furthermore, Dr Greer is honest enough to announce if it falls over for any reason, AND he is NOT SEEKING YOUR MONEY.
Be assured that the people he mixes with really ARE "in the know".
By the way, I cannot understand why such critical comment gathers at this site - surely you are interested in ZPE to bother reading here? Have you followed Hal Puthof's work? Or Bernard Haisch and others? The Casimir effect? The ZPF is most certainly real. Dr Greer's claims are not "dubious" simply because they refer to apparent "free energy". His experience, contacts and character put him into a category most people have never encountered.
Doug
Disclosure Project Rep, New Zealand |
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Re: Testing it? (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Sunday, March 09, 2003 @ 21:43:24 UTC | It seems funny to me how people scoff at the idea of 'free energy', when we already have 'free' energy available. Solar energy is 'free'. Geothermal energy is 'free'. Nuclear energy is 'free'. The concept of zero point energy seems to be a natural progression. Split one atom and the amount of energy released is enormous, yet we were able to harness it (albeit with more effort and danger). They don't question that megatons of force are produced by splitting an atom, but they scoff when a few hundred watts are produced from a handlheld device. It's true we haven't seen it yet, but why scoff at it until it's proven one way or another.
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 1) by vrilian on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 @ 23:49:28 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) http://www.oddamerica.com | I wrote the above report. I just wanted to know why my name was left off of it?
Mark House
Disclosure Project Rep
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 1) by vlad on Friday, February 07, 2003 @ 00:21:43 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) http://www.zpenergy.com | | Anthony, I didn't know you're the author; I took it from one of the Yahoo lists where your signature wasn't present. Please accept my apologies for not trying to find out who was the author. The omission is corrected now. |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 1) by vrilian on Monday, February 17, 2003 @ 19:41:49 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) http://www.oddamerica.com | Vlad, I'm in no way angry. I appreciate your correcting the omission. Keep up the great work Vlad, I hope one day soon - perhaps in a few short months - we will all be celebrating our new future using ZPE.
AMW House |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 1) by greenoftara on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 @ 00:09:50 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) | | Has anyone heard anything else about this device or when more information will be announced to the public? |
Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 1) by Zypher on Thursday, March 20, 2003 @ 11:37:48 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) | Hi,
I e-mailed the Disclosure Project folks asking this very question, as I would've hoped to have heard something by now.
They responed very quickly, and told me that the team is still working on it - and currently there are no planned 'update' announcements. I guess they're waiting until they're sure of what they have.
-Ryan |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 @ 21:27:34 UTC | | Bearden was supposed to go public by now with his invention but not a peep from him yet. |
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 @ 16:34:35 UTC | SEAS Update April 15 2003
http://www.seaspower.com/SEASUpdateApril152003.htm
SEAS UPDATE
15 APRIL 2003
MEMO: To all SEAS Investors, Consultants, and Interested Members of the
Media and Public
From: Steven M. Greer MD, CEO SEAS
RE: Update on SEAS technology acquisitions
As all of you know, SEAS identified a promising over unity technology in
January of this year, and subsequently negotiated an agreement to
acquire the technology. Since then, previously undisclosed business
interests of the inventor have surfaced and have stopped the acquisition
process. For this reason, to date we have not been able to acquire the
device for further testing or reproduce its performance. We have been
negotiating for 6 weeks to resolve the issues raised by these other
interests, a process that has involved parties in three countries.
At this point we do not know if or when the inventor will fulfill his
obligations to SEAS under the original agreement. We will let you know
as soon as the technology has been submitted to us for further
development and verification and the results of that process are known.
In the meanwhile, we have identified several other very promising
systems, one that is generating 35KW over unity, according to the
inventor. Another is a solid state system that shows significant
promise, as it would have no moving parts. The entire SEAS team is very
engaged in investigating, testing and acquiring these technologies. You
will be informed just as soon as confirmed tests and reproducibility
studies are completed on any of these new energy systems.
Thank you for your continuing support and interest.
Steven M. Greer MD
CEO SEAS
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Please note that there is still reason to hope that the above negotiations can be ironed out and that the original device can be vetted as planned. On the other hand there may be other devices as mentioned that can also demonstrate that OU capability is real and that it can be utilized to run real world appliances as well as be developed for transportation, etc.
AMW House
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Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 1) by DanielJackson (SG1Dan@AOl.COM) on Sunday, November 27, 2005 @ 20:21:22 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) | I must confess that as an inventor myself, I know that you can do things that the establishment says you can't. I heard this on Coast to Coast and recall it quite well. I do listen around on the airwaves abit. As an inventor however, I know that I am always open to let anyone look into my devices. I do not make mysterious black boxes. Hence, I do believe a little explaination is in order by an inventor. I mean his concepts are copyright the moment he writes them and they are his Intellectual Property and if he has his concepts in the public domain in books and other archives then he has his position as innovator secure even before a patent. There are Public Laws that protect inventions and innovations since you must discuss them with your researchers and other interested parties along the way of developement. There are Limited Disclosures and Limited Public Disclosures. I think the Patent however is a faulty thing these days since it runs out. Intellectual Property rights do not run out.
Everyone in the world knows that the inventions and innovations of Tesla are his intellectual property. Now long after his death. No one lays claim to his property.
Back to the point. We must be carefull of some claims and even check into the level of skill of the supposed innovator. Many sell all kinds of exotic ideas: some out right urban myths. Sold as science, or sci fi designed to look like science to turn a buck in terms of book sales. We do have to be carefull. I am an inventor, the frauds hurt us with all of their pseudo science claims.
I do know such inventions however exist. I innovated a few up myself. I am a first hand believer. I do want to see some of these other inventions up close and I hope to someday. I think I will get my chance to handle them and see for myself what they are. I want to find other good inventions, and I think that there are a few promising ones out there. I have been doing research on this for nearly twenty years now. I know of folk such as Paul Pantone, and even the now non existant Tesla Society that was out of Colorado back about ten years ago. I use to listen to "The Extraordinary Radio Science Hour" broadcaast by the Tesla Society on WWCR shortwave out of Nashville. I know of Steven Elsewick, and a few others. -DJ |
Re: A New Quantum Flux Level Over-Unity Device is Discovered (Score: 1) by Steiner_99 on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 @ 09:21:19 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) | Do you ever think Blueprints or diagrams of how to create an Over-unity
device will ever be made public on the net so anyone could build one?
I certainly hope so! We need these devices public!
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