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Bearden Mirror Site USPTO Want to Know Other Info-Sources NE News Sites AER_Network E-Cat World NexusNewsfeed ZPE NE Discussion Groups Energetic Forum EMediaPress Energy Science Forum Free_Energy FB Group The KeelyNet Blog OverUnity Research Sarfatti_Physics Tesla Science Foundation (FB) Vortex (old Interact) Magazine Sites Electrifying Times (FB) ExtraOrdinary Technology IE Magazine New Energy Times Interesting Links		Perendev Magnetic Motor Update Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2004 @ 17:39:14 UTC by vlad Sterling D. Allan (http://freeenergynews.com/) writes: I spoke with Mike Brady a couple of days ago. There are more developments, but I was asked not to report on them this time around. They will let us know when the demo will be held. Again, he said he was highly impressed with the engineering work taking place. Also see: Perendev Index   Login Nickname Password Security Code: Type Security Code Don't have an account yet? You can create one. As a registered user you have some advantages like theme manager, comments configuration and post comments with your name. Related Links · More about Devices · News by vlad Most read story about Devices: Overunity magnet motor released ! Article Rating Average Score: 0 Votes: 0 Please take a second and vote for this article: Options   Printer Friendly "Perendev Magnetic Motor Update" | Login/Create an Account | 2 comments | Search Discussion The comments are owned by the poster. We aren't responsible for their content. No Comments Allowed for Anonymous, please register Re: Perendev Magnetic Motor Update (Score: 1) by vlad on Monday, October 18, 2004 @ 21:39:44 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) http://www.zpenergy.com --- In energy2000@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Anderson" wrote: I have seen first-hand three magnetic motors running and have written cost feasibility and reproducibility reports on all three. Two of them I had in my lab and my staff used the inventors' plans to build several working replicas. We also went and saw, first-hand, the Perendev device. All three designs used "Rare Earth" magnets (Neodymium, or more correctly stated, Neodymium Iron Boron or NdFeB) and our various reproductions used NdFeB, SmCo and Ferrite magnets. We did not attempt to reproduce the Perendev device because of its design proximity to one of the other two. The results were always the same: they all run down. Under load, they run down very quickly. It doesn't take very long for magnets to lose their magnetism when they are constantly being put in opposition to one another. Every magnet has a "maximum energy product" rated in Mega Gauss Oersteds, MGOe. This is the amount of work a magnet can do before its level of magnetism has deteriorated to the point that its energy doesn't reach out far enough to affect anything surrounding it. Contrary to the popular notion that rare earth magnets are invincible, even the most expensive sintered NdFeB magnets max out at less than 50 MGOe. If they are used in a device that puts them constantly in opposition, they will run down, and this is the whole assumption behind so-called "magnetic motors". The amount of energy used in manufacturing a magnet is typically 10 times what the magnet is capable of producing. More expensive magnets are even less efficient. Add to this the losses in energy incurred by these 33%-66% concept magnet devices themselves, and the energy consumed in the overall manufacturing process is 20-25 times the energy you will get out. There are situations where these types of devices may be useful, but they are not "free energy", nor do they represent any sort of "overunity" phenomenon, nor any solution to the energy crisis. ------Original Message------- I'm still on the fence when it comes to magnet motors. I'de love to see one working! To that end i'm offering to cut free of charge whatever acrylic is needed on an laser engraver free of charge*. Rather than repeat something i've already posted, check out the message below. I've love to see one of these things run. I don't believe its theoretically impossible, i just don't have the time to figure out if it is possible. If anyone believes they have what it takes to make a magnet motor. I'm glad to help you build ones as long as i have the right to make as many as i can if successfully. Re: Perendev Magnetic Motor Update by Rothhaar on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 @ 07:57:04 UTC

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