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Eugene Podkletnov Breakthrough - 2nd Interview
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2004 @ 15:12:26 GMT by vlad

Science Tim Ventura writes: Dear All:

Last week Dr. Eugene Podkletnov stunned the experimental AG community with the revelation that his Superconductng Force-Beam Generator was producing an output in excess of hundreds of pounds of pure gravitational force.

We've just finished a follow-up interview with Podkletnov to learn more about the results that he's been getting, and we're amazed to say that the more we learn, the more impressive his experiments become:

Podkletnov claims that the gravitational beam is generated by a 3 to 5 megavolt drop onto a 4-inch diameter superconductor, which is enclosed in a wrapped-solenoid to create a magnetic field around the apparatus.

Pulses are powerful enough to punch through brick, concrete, and deform light-metals "like hitting it with a sledgehammer".

The beam doesn't disappear rapidly with distance -- in fact, its been measured at distances of up to 5 kilometers, and seems to penetrate all materials without a decrease in force. These are only a few of the details that he provides as we cover listener questions in this follow-up interview.

Eugene Podkletnov Breakthrough (High-Quality) WinMedia Audio [1.8 mb]
http://www.intalek.com/AV/Podkletnov-Breakthrough.wma

Eugene Podkletnov Breakthrough (Standard-Quality) WinMedia Audio [1 mb]
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Re: Eugene Podkletnov Breakthrough - 2nd Interview (Score: 1)
by vlad on Monday, August 02, 2004 @ 15:14:15 GMT
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John Hutchison writes: further info;; see dr robert forwards work on barium ceramics gravity shielding effects marc millis advanced propulsion workshop nasa also barium titanate self levitates its own weight the race to zero point video and article in electric spacecraft journal on barium titante spheres usa army tests shows sphere hovering what i like about podkletnov that high powerd magnetic field s tend to distort gravity the other test was a french test where a magnetic field was spun at the speed of light within an electrostatic field thus produceing antigravity another info source is los alamos antimatter program they found that metals or tiny amounds of antimatter made antigravity source dod sbirprogram 1980s handbooks this program was instantly funded ;;also basar tech is interesting a boson laser ucla;; and noble gas exsplosions within a cylinder via electrical charge piston engines we all knows what happens when neon within a bulb is hit with high voltage a very interesting vidio also great work len shoulders is doing with charge clusters with mark golden in north california fun stuff keepup the great work folks
john hutchison



Re: Eugene Podkletnov Breakthrough - 2nd Interview (Score: 1)
by ElectroDynaCat on Tuesday, August 03, 2004 @ 09:20:55 GMT
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Glad to see the good Doctor hasn't blown himself up.



Re: Eugene Podkletnov Breakthrough - 2nd Interview (Score: 1)
by spacedrive on Tuesday, August 03, 2004 @ 20:04:23 GMT
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These are incredible claims he's making, how much of this has been independently verified?



Re: Eugene Podkletnov Breakthrough - 2nd Interview (Score: 1)
by mojo on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 @ 14:50:23 GMT
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Hi folks,

It appears to me that all the breakthroughs on anti-gravity using superconductors are related to the property whereby the SC reflects magnetic fields. It could be said that the matrix arrangement and spin pairing within the SC can cause all sorts of fields to be reflected from the SC boundary under the proper conditions.

This might also be similar to the boundary conditions that cause refraction and total internal relection, and also to the theories that regard space itself as a refracting medium under certain conditions.

There is also the idea that the reflected fields can have a different nature than the incoming fields.

This is all due to the nature of the matix lattice strucure, the way it affects the vacuum field structure, and the spin pairing and spin field structures that result.

mojo



THE KEY TO THE SPINNING ZPE CONVERTER! (???) (Score: 1)
by nanotech on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 @ 19:51:30 GMT
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I have a book that details the Pod...experiments and this author who himself is a ZPE researcher has stated that a CONICAL/CONE SHAPED structure would be more effective than the spinning disk. If there is anyone out there that can carry out these types of experiments, please feel free to try this and get back to us with your results. I do not know if this is valid or not.

What is very interesting is this: In the book "The Hunt for Zero Point" by Nick Cook, it is discovered that Doctor Pod has a link to the research done by Viktor Schauberger, going back to the Second World War, and the Russians and Germans. Supposedly, the Russians made a beeline straight for Schauberger's research lab(s) (The Nazis/Hitler and his fiends forced Viktor to work for them). If you all remember, Viktor discovered how to use spinning vortex motion to cohere zero point energy, produce levitation effects, purify matter, etc etc etc.




Jack Sarfatti on Podkletnov's Force Beam Experiment (Score: 1)
by vlad on Thursday, August 05, 2004 @ 21:51:05 GMT
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From Sarfatti_Physics_Seminars group:

Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:04:39 -0700
From: Jack Sarfatti
Subject: Re: NEWS: Podkletnov beam hits like sledgehammer?

Hmmm ...? I cannot instantly evaluate this.

On Aug 4, 2004, at 5:27 PM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:

> http://www.americanantigravity.com/index.shtml
>
> http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=862
>
>
> Tim Ventura writes:
>
> Dear All:
>
> Last week Dr. Eugene Podkletnov stunned the experimental AG community
> with
> the revelation that his Superconductng Force-Beam Generator was
> producing an
> output in excess of hundreds of pounds of pure gravitational force.

This relates to my debate with Paul Zielinski and to the Popular
Mechanics articles, Aviation Week and PRAVDA articles relating to
exotic weapons as well as Sir Martin Rees's "Our Final Hour."

Remember "g-force" is "connection field" in Einstein's gravity and it
is locally completely annihilated in a Local Inertial Frame. This
assumes zero torsion field of course. Now you do not want g-force in a
warp drive. A warp drive has ZERO g-force like in Alcubierre's toy
metric model. You only get a g-force from a NON-GRAVITY force pushing
you off a timelike geodesic. Most of these NASA BPP and STAIF types do
not have the elementary physics 101 concepts clear in their minds when
it comes to exotic propulsion and their weapons implications including
stealth cloaking. The whole idea of warp drive, i.e. reactionless
vacuum propulsion using partially cohered zero point energy density of
both signs in proper proportion and spatial distribution around the
thin fuselage of our advanced space fighter, is to annihilate the
g-force with as small tidal curvature stretch-squeeze distortion over
the scale of the machine as possible. Indeed, Kip Thorne discusses this
in his original traversable wormhole paper almost 20 years ago. Kip did
not yet know that the Universe is filled with his "exotic matter" in
the form of "dark energy" - just what the Doctor ordered Ad Astra as I
show in my books especially Super Cosmos.

What Podkletnov needs to do is to change the shape of the timelike
geodesic at the location of the Unconventional Flying Object in the
sense of Paul Hill's "acceleration field" or George Trimble's
"G-Engine" concept from 1956 that Nick Cook write about in "The Hunt
for Zero Point."

>
> We've just finished a follow-up interview with Podkletnov to learn more
> about the results that he's been getting, and we're amazed to say that
> the
> more we learn, the more impressive his experiments become:
>
> Podkletnov claims that the gravitational beam is generated by a 3 to 5
> megavolt drop onto a 4-inch diameter superconductor, which is enclosed
> in a
> wrapped-solenoid to create a magnetic field around the apparatus.
>
> Pulses are powerful enough to punch through brick, concrete, and deform
> light-metals "like hitting it with a sledgehammer".

Well a micro-geon of negative quantum pressure might do something like
that if it could be stabilized. Curiously enough something like that
might be seen mesoscopically in Ken Shoulders's "charge clusters".

Suppose you have unbalanced charge of Ne in a spherical shell of radius
r. The repulsive unstable electrostatic self-energy per unit mass is ~
(Ne)^2/mr. Suppose further that you have a UNIFORM distribution of
exotic vacuum dark energy with negative quantum zero point pressure.
It's effective self energy is then ~ c^2/zpfr^2. Note this positive
harmonic oscillator potential is similar to the problem of dropping a
ball through a hole drilled through the center of the Earth like in
Halliday and Resnick text Physics 101. Plot these two positive
repulsive potentials and one gets a counter-intuitive well of stability
in the middle. Roughly when

(Ne)^2/mr^2 = 2c^2/zpfr

where the two opposing force negative gradients cancel out.

Remember

/zpf ~ Lp*^-2[Lp*^3|Vacuum Coherence|^2 - 1]

without any Josephson effect control in which case the equation is


/zpf(induced) ~ Lp*^-2(Overlap Volume)|Vacuum Coherence||Control
Macro-Quantum Coherence|cos(Josephson Phase)


>
> The beam doesn't disappear rapidly with distance -- in fact, its been
> measured at distances of up to 5 kilometers, and seems to penetrate all
> materials without a decrease in force. These are only a few of the
> details
> that he provides as we cover listener questions in this follow-up
> interview.

I don't see how Podkletnov gets a "beam", but I have not thought hard
about what he is allegedly doing.

Describing it as a "beam of g-force" is not the right way to talk about
this - if it's real?
>



Re: Eugene Podkletnov Breakthrough - 2nd Interview (Score: 1)
by raccoon on Friday, August 06, 2004 @ 04:25:05 GMT
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I think the Podkletnov beam has much in common with the type of radiation discovered by N.Tesla. Both used a discharge technique for inducing this massless (and not TEM wave) type of radiation. Both concluded that an abrupt discharge cause a force effect on a distance on object which cannot be shielded.

See for instance:
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2003/06/06/ramifications_of_free_energytesla_and_others.htm

This implies that the superconductivity and also the strong magnetic field applied by Podkletnov is not fundamental: any abrupt discharge/voltage_change might induce such a non-shieldable vacuum shock-wave.
The discharge duration is shortened by the use of superconducting material, and also the strong permanent magnet helps to get a more abrupt discharge.



Re: Eugene Podkletnov Breakthrough - 2nd Interview (Score: 1)
by nanotech on Friday, August 06, 2004 @ 11:45:00 GMT
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The article says the beam can deform light metals. I have been wondering: Can a controlled gravity or electrogravity "beam" or force be used to synthesize new materials by squeezing them under TREMENDOUS Pressure? The answer would have to be yes. Look at what a neutron star does. But can we make stable materials that are stable at room temperatures and pressures, by squeezing them with controlled gravity?





Re: Eugene Podkletnov Breakthrough - 2nd Interview (Score: 1)
by jhpace1 on Friday, August 06, 2004 @ 12:39:42 GMT
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And just to keep the topic going, let me say again that this device has potential weapon(s) application. If the technology can be matured to be as reliable as current-day projectile weapon systems. Right now Ning Li's picture at http://popularmechanics.com/science/research/1999/10/taming_gravity/images/tb_0010STRSCB.jpg shows a tabletop-sized rotating platter. For rifle and handgun equivalency, you need coin-sized. Not to say that a tabletop or vinyl record-sized platter couldn't make a new type of weapon with effects similar to a 20cm (8-inch) cannon.

Imagine: using a device of a CRT monitor or TV set to shoot down flying line-of-sight targets at a range in the hundreds of kilometers. Or a rifle similar in size to the new US Army ICW that delivers the effect of 5.56mm per trigger pull for a distance of 300-500m. And that weapon can deliver as many gravitational "bullets" as the battery of the weapon can generate. Not a 10-round or 30-round clip or magazine, but several hundred times. Since we are talking electrical rather than explosive discharge, that number when computer-controlled starts to go into hundreds of "rounds" per second.

The autopsy of an animal or human target might be difficult for the uninformed medical practitioner. Using the above quote of "like hitting it with a sledgehammer", you would not see bullet holes but broken bones, blood vessels, organs, etc. I'm not sure if there would be entry and exit points, only extreme bruising of the skin at point of impact. A Podkletnov "gun" could also do material damage, like shooting a lock off of a door with ease, or making your own door by firing pulses through metal or concrete until you have your door "cut out" in an outline.

I'm not sure if we have megavolt capacitors to match the electrical requirements. Anyone here more versed on electrical engineering than I am?



Re: Eugene Podkletnov Breakthrough - 2nd Interview (Score: 1)
by vlad on Saturday, August 07, 2004 @ 13:12:31 GMT
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In the tapten yahoo group Mike. J. Furness writes: Hi Tim, What a fascinating interview!

I would recommend to all to follow the links to your site & download the papers!

Only one difficulty, I cannot download the pictures 'not available' is this just some setting on my computer, or have Cornell 'removed them?' Pictures make the story, and I would be eternally grateful if anyone can help with this (pages 29 - 38) from memory.

Now to the body of the story, IT ALL FITS!!

I was going to ask (through yourself) if the force produced an 'equal & opposite' reaction? Now I am clear that it doesn't! It also seemed apparent that Eugene appeared a little 'uncomfortable' in discussing both 'OU' and aspects in this direction. (Probably only because some would automatically downgrade him to a 'crank')

What amuses me is your apparent surprise that after penetrating a 'heavy object' the gravity pulse was 'unattenuated' on the other side.

Quite simply, think normally, & don't be deterred just because the gravity is both 'defined' & horizontal; after all, if you go into a concrete 'blockhouse' , Cheyenne Mountain centre, or whatever, gravity is to all intents & purposes identical to what it is outside, so why should a 'horizontal field' be any different? Of course it can do 'work', if you have a vertical shaft into a Coal mine & you have several 'floors or weights' at different levels, then as each one is 'dropped' it will realise it's kinetic energy without any effect on a man standing at the top. Now turn the shaft on it's side, but keep it's original gravity (if you could), & you have an identical situation!

I was quite chuffed that I estimated the force needed to deform the Steel plate at about 1,000G & then found this identical reference in the article!

Of course gravity is 'faster than light' (event horizon on 'black Hole ) & as we all believe in UFO' s how do you think they can visit us without FTL ability? Eugene states 'at least 60 to 64 C' . I favour Ted Roach's figure of 7.23 x 10^50 metres / second; which gives access to any part of our galaxy in about a millisecond or two.

Whilst Eugene's figure would certainly bring down the time of a round trip to 'Proxima Centuri' to about two months, it could still be dreadfully booring to our 'furthest relatives!'

As I also read today that we are visited by about 64 different ET's then either our local area is 'overpopulated', or it is easy to travel from further afield!

How does this affect us?

Well, let's first look at Ed Gray's (& my inventor's) 'Spark Enhanced Motors', here we have a 'somewhat conventional' motor (my case anyway) and we discharge a high voltage spark RIGHT INTO THE CENTRE (or thereabouts) into a field coil.Which is identical to Eugene, just volts, temp. & magnets different (There's a lot more to it than that etc. etc. and the millions of combinations of 'this & that' just will, under the right conditions, maybe produce just .1 % of 1000G at one part of the rotor immediately adjacent to the coil.

Taking this to a conclusion, a motor with an 8 inch rotor that weighs 20 pounds, and experiences this torque (10 pounds), and rotating at 6000 RPM 2piNT /550 will give a 'free energy' of just under 4 HP, take away the losses & there might just be something left over, & verify my man's claims 'the motor cannot be overloaded & burnt out'

Now to our endeavours; the key seems to be in the (guess what) magnets, note that this effect occurs on the boundary layer between a superconductor (magnetized with a coil or cooled in the prescence of permanent magnet) and a layer which cannot become a superconductor (or a magnet); & Bifield Brown's effect was greatest when there were 'impurities' such as heavy lumps of Lead in the Dielectric.

And don't forget the high voltage which may be generated purely by the device rotation.

As you all know, my 'belief' in a permanent magnet is that it is a 'superconductor' by way of an entrained current (or equivalent) inside it; so what do we have to do to duplicate even a very small 'piece of the action?'

Perhaps only something so totally mundane as, figuratively speaking, a 'handful of dirt' or other impurities in the magnets; maybe some of the 'AG friendly' materials such as Aluminium or Cobalt!

Leads us back to the strong possibility that Searl used 'Alinco' (aluminium & cobalt) magnets?, and perhaps, if 'AC magnetising' actually featured, it maybe caused intense local heating, and 'dissacociated' the materials locally into 'unmagnetizeable' domains?

Who Knows, the above is pure conjecture, but at the expense of upsetting some, my given understanding is that only 'the first Searl ever made' actually worked!

We can argue about this all day, but only Searl knows the absolute truth, & he's not telling; sufficient to say that he certainly can't make anything work now.

It may be a lot closer than any can imagine, when someone (or many) will produce 'cheap & cheerful' working devices!

Keep experimenting!

Mike.

Mike. J. Furness



Re: Eugene Podkletnov Breakthrough - 2nd Interview (Score: 1)
by ElectroDynaCat on Saturday, August 07, 2004 @ 19:37:47 GMT
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A way to end scepticism about the results of Dr. Podklenovs research should be simple. If the good Doctor would please only reveal the time of his experiments, there should be a way to correlate any simultaneous gravity waves by simply looking at Seismic recordings for that time.

It should be assumed that these gravity waves travel at the speed of light. Therefore direct time correlation might even be able to pinpoint the location of his experiments, if we could resolve time of travel down to nanoseconds.




Re: Eugene Podkletnov Breakthrough - 2nd Interview (Score: 1)
by mojo on Sunday, August 08, 2004 @ 12:30:43 GMT
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It is quite possible that the effect that DR. Podkletnov has created has nothing at all to due with the actual gravitational force.. It could be a type of electromagnetic (or other as yet unknown) effect that has the capability of overcoming gravity and producing force beams. The causalities of gravity and anti-gravity may lie in entirely different realms of causation.

I think that the effect is probably produced by a restructuring of the vacuum, the effect of which is propagated as a field/wave combination which then transferrs momentum to create the anti-gravity and force beam effects.

Vacuum restrucuring takes place in the realms of vacuum energy density, vacuum charge potential, and valcuum spin potential.

mojo



 

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