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"Should a free/open/reputable international FE technology testing organization be established?" | Login/Create an Account | 8 comments
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Re: Should a free/open/reputable international FE tech. test (Score: 1)
by Veryskeptical on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 @ 05:56:45 UTC
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I would like to agree with you that a special testing lab for free energy devices is a good step. However, the free energy movement needs to consider the political dimension more carefully. A political action arm of some sort to promote a new public dialogue. Unreasoning skeptics in the opposing camp should be confronted. The public should be picqued in any way possible to take an interest in new energy devices. Assumptions about solar power, wind power, fuel cells and other darlings of the conservation movement could be attacked
as foolish and destructive in the face of far better alternatives. Conservation could be challanged as unecessary, foolish and extravagant in its parsimonious concerns. At some point it should be possible to force the opposition to respond. The resulting fight would force the issue into the public consciousness.
I have long thought the free energy movement has a political problem to face even more than a scientific problem.

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Re: Should a free/open/reputable international FE tech. test (Score: 1)
by modernsteam on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 @ 08:18:19 UTC
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Ideally, the invention could be tested "for free", but somebody somewhere has to pay the cost. Either the testers do it pro bono and the lab equipment is loaned without rental cost, or the costs are paid probably by taxpayers in one or more sovereign nations. There are estimated to be hundreds of F-E device claims, and I've learned through my involvement in the F-E movement over the past 11 years or so, that most devices which appear to work at first, "wind down" after awhile, like a toy train clock-work mechanism returning to its natural shape by giving off kinetic mechanical energy in the process. Most of these devices are permanent magnet motors, or those which try to use pulsing to grab extra energy from the quantum vacuum, only to output so little excess time and again that not enough can be fed back to the front-end of a system to keep the "sharp jolts" going "in phase" and maintain a self-running status. One needs at least a COP of 3 to realize self-running, from what I've read. To be kind, I'd say the inventors in these situations had far less than they thought they would. The only test that's universally agreed as worthwhile is a machine self-running under load for at least a year.

There may be a way of covering the costs, sometimes at public expense, in a fair and reasonable way. If the device works as claimed, and can be sold/leased, licensed or whatever, then a fair amount of the revenues from that should return to those who've paid the costs of testing, which includes testing organizations which have done the job pro bono, and the tax coffers, of course. Let's just say it'd be a sort of "I.O.U." being paid back, with some profit or share of the royalties, accruing to the payers. Lawyers have been known to work that way when setting up IP protection and a business enterprise for new technology. It's one of the reasons many of them are so very rich. But it may be a just price to pay to ensure that legitimate F-E devices are produced and eventually sold/leased at a fair, and ultimately, very low price.

Hal Ade

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