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	Mission Statement Modules · Home · Forum · LATEST COMMENTS · Special Sections · SUPPORT ZPEnergy · Advertising · AvantGo · Books · Downloads · Events · Feedback · Link to us · Private Messages · Search · Stories Archive · Submit News · Surveys · Top 10 · Topics · Web Links · Your Account Who's Online There are currently, 527 guest(s) and 0 member(s) that are online. You are Anonymous user. You can register for free by clicking here Events Hot Links Aetherometry American Antigravity Closeminded Science EarthTech ECW E-Cat World Innoplaza Integrity Research Institute New Energy Movement New Energy Times Panacea-BOCAF RexResearch Science Hobbyist T. Bearden Mirror Site USPTO Want to Know Other Info-Sources NE News Sites AER_Network E-Cat World NexusNewsfeed ZPE NE Discussion Groups Energetic Forum EMediaPress Energy Science Forum Free_Energy FB Group The KeelyNet Blog OverUnity Research Sarfatti_Physics Tesla Science Foundation (FB) Vortex (old Interact) Magazine Sites Electrifying Times (FB) ExtraOrdinary Technology IE Magazine New Energy Times Interesting Links		The comments are owned by the poster. We aren't responsible for their content. No Comments Allowed for Anonymous, please register Re: Spin waves and the ZPE (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 @ 15:27:55 UTC Vlad, Since you viewed the VTA site and posted a couple of messages from it you should of reviewed messages perrtinent to the VTA. Mike Watson and I have exchanged messages and he has posted on the site messages that though he visited "Sparky" and was in contact with him, he has never been able to complete a workable VTA. Floyd would not allow Mike to view the VTA setup when he visited him in California. Bedini made no claim that he observed a working VTA. On the Keelynet site Bedini posted messages to the fact that he was the "gopher" for Floyd and obtained the magnets from a surplus shop. They were never verified as to content. Floyd cut him off because John was trying on his own to experiment with the information he obtained from Floyd. Rosenthal wrote an article about Floyd and his work but never stated what he exactly observed and tested on the VTA. He did state in a message tht he thought Floyd might have an RF transmitter hidden under the VTA bench. They were not alowed to view that area. I asked Mike Watson to attempt to get Rosenthal to post a message concerning his alleged VTA testingand results but Mike was unsuccessful. As for Bearden he never saw anything. The "Cold Current" and levatation, and power output were relayed to him from "Sparky by telephone by Bearden's own statement. Floyd hired Bearden on Bediini's recommendation according to Bedini's post on Keelynet. At that time Floyd was desperate for money and needed to atttract investors. If you look back at the VTA messages a year to two years ago you'll find posts from VTA investors who claim Flyod was running a scam. He had signed up with a number of investors and companies resulting in lawsuits. Don Watson was to have a similar model of the VTA running at 3 watts. But no one can verify that. Don Watson claims he doesn't remember his setup and plans to build one. DTB | Parent witness vs verify (Score: 1) by chipotle_pickle on Thursday, May 29, 2003 @ 02:02:43 UTC (User Info | Send a Message) http://freehydrogen.blogspot.com Hundreds of thousands have witnessed the amazing machines of Joe Newman, but none have verified them. And Newman has testiminials from names weightier than those listed above. But what we don't have from Newman, and will never get, is repeatable results from multiple independent testers. And we don't have that from Sweet either. Newman really is a good reference point for any FE claim. If the evidence is no better than Joe's, and the claim no less spectacular, than it's at least as likely to be a scam as Joe's. Rather than digging through the records of every FE con man, maybe we could learn more about ZPE studying cosmology. Big Bangs don't come around every day, but if we understood better the one we had, maybe we could understand better how to harness ZPE or why it can't be harnessed. | Parent

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