well it is time to begin anew. (used to be here but forgot all info reagarding account so i setup a new one with yet another email account. it needed to be done.) first off any unthinking dogmatist mindlessly repeating Newton's LAWS LIKE A PARROT WILL DIE! those laws were formulated prior to the knowledge of matter energy equivalence. electron orbiting, superconductors,liqiud helium all are easy examples of perpetual motion. second i agree with kadamose. mark goldes needs to join his money-changer ilk in hell. hey mark how many humans starved to death while you were playing with the patent process? no more humanitarian posturing for you! stand revealed! as for kadamose you want free energy? put a water/metal leyden jar on a mountain top. cosmic rays are the power source. (see how easy that is mark?) anyway here is some info from google that will show you the pentagon has batteries that last for decades. search: executive engineering inc. of florida. the machines are called NAGs nuclear accelarated generators. in my previous board name i mentioned how this tech powers the black ops troops sattelite phones. now those who doubt it can see the info themselves. if you wonder why YOUR batteries suck write a letter to energizer and duracell. ask them why they chose the life of a total fraud.