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    Re: DOES ZPE NEED A DIFFERENTIAL TO WORK? (Score: 1)
    by seanu on Thursday, September 01, 2005 @ 04:03:03 UTC
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    Interesting Cold_Steel, u point out that potential energy is merely a useful arbitrary concept for the amount of energy that could be utilised by a system in a circumstance. There is no such thing as "potential energy", this potential just represents the possibility of some energy expenditure.

    I thought of an extension to ur analogy. Take a couple of your 1kg bricks. One brick is 10 meters above the ground, the other on the surface of Mars. Which has the greater potential energy? The Mars brick is stuck on Mars, so that has none (or negative with repect to the former). So the answer must be the first brick, because it actually has a possibilty of moving.


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    Re: DOES ZPE NEED A DIFFERENTIAL TO WORK? (Score: 1)
    by Cold_Steel on Thursday, September 01, 2005 @ 09:04:05 UTC
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    Can you give me a link to something that describes how E=mc^2 applies to gravitational potential?
    I was under the impression that the total potential energy of something would require mc^2 as well as the gravitational potential seperately. I'd like to read up on this effect.

    Now, here's a crazy off the wall hypothetical question. I don't know much about this stuff, but for the sake of an interesting "what if"... Do nuclear reactions work because nucleons move to a lower potential energy, or do they work because a nucleon moves in a certain way in general. How about electrons? Is electromagnetic radiation caused by an electron moving to a lower potential energy, or is it perhaps caused by an electron moving linearly and stopping, thus causing an electromagnetic "ripple" in space time? What if the strong nuclear force is actually a curvature in an alternate dimension of space time like gravity? I know it's crazy, but it's interesting to think about. I certainly don't have the science or math background to figure stuff like this out unfortunately.


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    Re: DOES ZPE NEED A DIFFERENTIAL TO WORK? (Score: 1)
    by nanotech on Friday, September 02, 2005 @ 12:36:15 UTC
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    Fascinating points of view, Gewis, and I would like to know more about the zero point energy/radiation and how it relates to space and time, etc.

    Explain what difference it makes as to whether space is flat, or, curved (or curvable)? I recall Tesla disagreeing with Einstein about space being curved, Tesla seemed to believe that space is flat, because of something like cause and effect, ie, if space were to start to curve, motion from elsewhere would straighten it out again; however, I don't know the details of his full views regarding this.

    Anyhow, Thomas Bearden and others discuss scalar electromagnetics, and how we can make "Space time curvature engines" and pressure waves/stress waves in the virtual particle flux/space time structure. What are your thoughts on this fascinating stuff? Such as David Bohm's Quantum Potential waves/Pilot waves.

    Also: Do you think it is possible, in theory, to somehow make alloys or material structures that are far stronger and more durable than normal atomic matter allows, by direct manipulation, somehow, of ZPE/Space fabric/aether?



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