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    Re: popular misunderstanding about electromagnets (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 @ 04:38:23 EDT
    The misunderstanding is the definition of work. For example take two arm wrestlers whose arms are locked in combat. Distance moved zero therefore according to the definition of work no work is being done ! I suspect the sweat on their brows indicates this is not the case.
    Likewise if one of those arm wrestlers was to have a competition against a permanent magnet to hold up another magnet 1 foot above a table the amount of work being done in both systems is zero.....hmmm. I have a sneaking suspicion that the arm wrestler would lose eventually !
    If magnetism, gravity etc are linked to ZPE then you nor anyone else can say what the effect of a system will be. For all you know the so called "laws" of physics are merely an interpretation of the results of an interaction between known "matter" and forces. The cold magnet holding an object above the table and your definition of work are simply a gaping hole in the laws of physics because you don't know everything (NO-ONE YET DOES).


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    ..or rather... (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday, April 18, 2004 @ 12:52:22 EDT
    With the current definition of work, pickle is quite right. But that's the thing here, physics is all based on premisis and definitions upon which a theory is built.

    If we redefine work to involve static forces summed to zero, then that work would indeed need energy, and the energy is then supplied by the permanent magnet. But that does not fit in with current views and would need a whole other theory based on new definitions.

    -Gog


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