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    Re:right you are!! (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Friday, December 19, 2003 @ 05:29:45 EST
    pickle's entire case is one BIG BLACK HOLE!! keeping this thing going for a few million dollars, kelly doesn't need it. he's already wealthy from legitimate business. stop responding to this idiot pickle.

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    30 pieces of silver (Score: 1)
    by chipotle_pickle on Saturday, December 20, 2003 @ 00:26:20 EST
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    Please help me understand your argument. Are you saying that nobody ever runs scams for small amounts of money? This makes no sense. Except for the government run ones (the ethanol program, freedom fuel, etc) no perpetual motion scam has ever taken in much more than a million a year. Are you saying that Joe Newman, Dennis Lee, Paul Pantone, Carl Tilley, Grant Romundt, Sanjay Amin ... that none of them ran scams because none of them ever took in much more than a million a year in "investment". Even the ones who are in hiding outside of the country to avoid angry investors from past scams?

    Jesus was sold out by a friend in a fit of quickly regretted bad judgment for 30 pieces of silver (not a million dollars). Some people (Ossama Bin laden, Brigham Young) will kill hundreds of strangers just to send a message to the USA. Some people will kill you for your shoes. And you argue that Kelly values you too much to rob you of however much you've given him? How much would your friends rob you for?

    Anyway, how much money Kelly hasn't raised is further proof that this is a scam. He tells you guys he's going to have a million units built by next week. Well, each unit will have to be inspected, stamped, wrapped (maybe boxed) and inventoried. Why don't you ask to get a souvenir copy of all the different inspection stickers they are using? They should have spent about 6 figures so far just on the stamps and wrapping material. If they have to put things in boxes, ouch, that's at least a million dollars right there. You might also ask for the procedures manual for the inspectors. That should be about an inch thick. Just a souvenir copy. Back to the money. Look at the picture of the Edison. Can you identify any components on that thing that cost less than $10 to build? Well if he didn't raise $10 mil, but he says he's built a million units, and the stamps and cellophane cost 6 figures and the boxes 7, where is he getting operating capital from? Answer: he's not built a million units, there is no procedures manual, there are no stamps, no boxes, no inspections, no production.

    I know it's hard. You say something you didn't understand. Now someone who didn't see it, tells you that he understands it, and that the guy who showed it to you was a fraud. But imagine for a minute this was your brother who was contemplating this investment, instead of you who had made it. Wouldn't you tell him to check that there really is production as they claim (the manuals, the stickers) that the invention really works as advertised (independent testing, measuring the metal hydride storage and cGells before and after) and that the people involved are on the level (and don't say that their names can't appear in print except in articles written by Lichtenstein)? Wouldn't you shake him? If he complained that you were treating him like a baby, what would you say? Maybe that if he wants you to treat him as if he doesn't need looking after, he can look after himself.

    Start looking after yourself.

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