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Mixing means and extremes (Score: 1)
by chipotle_pickle on Friday, November 14, 2003 @ 12:52:22 EST
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Mixing means and extremes, or working with an unstated assumptions that the thing was running at capacity all the time is a much worse problem than neglecting discounting, constructing an improper "operational cost", or making an arithmetic error. I assume that their error is smaller than you do.

I can tell you still have not tried to say "The water filters cost 2 cents per kWh".

We know that they don't mean for the thing to be run at capacity all the time. In the questions about how long the gCell lasts they say that used heavily, they last half as long, since the "catalyst" gets used proportionally to the production. Also they suggest not averaging the unit at over 75% capacity. When they say that the capacity cost of a unit that produces 23.3 kWh/day is $2600, we don't know if they mean it will produce that much as a max, or an average with the device operating at an average of 75% capacity, or 50% capacity. We can't tell if a $2600 unit is supposed to be a 1kW unit, 1.5,kW, or 2 kW. It would be more transparent if they just measured power in kW rather than kWh/day, but then they wouldn't be them.

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average=max (Score: 1)
by chipotle_pickle on Friday, November 14, 2003 @ 14:14:05 EST
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Zero variance is a pretty powerful assumption and you can clean up the confusion between operating and purchase price with it. So I can see how you might make it. But if you had been reading their site all along, you wouldn't. I am not going to provide links because I am still getting a lot of bad resolves but it's clear that they *don't* assume zero variance.

Q: How much electricity will the Edison Device deliver?
Consumers should select a version of the Edison Device that allows them to meet their average kilowatt hours of consumption, with the Edison Device operating no more than 75% of maximum output.

Q: How long will the chemicals in the Genesis gCell last?
A: The Genesis gCell provides a finite amount of energy. As a result, system life is proportional to the amount of energy each consumer uses. Presuming that the water system is serviced properly, the gCells in the Edison Device are projected to provide energy to an average home in the United States for up to twenty years. In a home where energy usage is twice that of the average, the gCells in the Edison device would last approximately ten years. Once depleted, gCells can be replaced by consumers for a fraction of the cost of an entire Edison Device.

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