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    Gravity-Waves & Missing Scientists at American Antigravity.Com
    Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 @ 22:27:28 UTC by vlad

    Science In the Greenglow yahoo group Tim Ventura writes: Hi Everybody:

    I've just completed a new interview with Mike Wright from the Ramtha School, and Sam Barros from PowerLabs.org, online at: http://www.americanantigravity.com/interviews2.shtml

    Also, I have a new Ning Li / Baker / Podkletnov page about gravity-waves online at: http://www.americanantigravity.com/gravitywaves.shtml

    I spent all day building the page + doing the Wright interview, so I will keep this brief:

    The general idea is that gravity waves transduce electrical energy into gravitational wave energy in the same way that a speaker transduces electromagnetic energy into sound. Therefore, at least for the time being, nobody is calling gravitational-waves "over-unity", although this technology is being developed by both conventional PhD's as well as the government (so odds are that they'll never call it overunity).

    The concept is simply a coupling, in the same way that Podkletnov's 2nd experiment with Modanese worked --> (energy in = gravitational force out).

    Podkletnov had the simplest experiment for this: stick a superconductor in a spark gap and nuke it with a really large electrical discharge. The output should be about a 20-pound column of force that he claimed knocked things over in his lab.

    ----------
    Price to replicate:

    $25 for the superconductor from Colorado Superconductor + Liquid Nitrogen (ask your doctor's office -- maybe $20 + vacuum flask cost): http://www.users.qwest.net/~csconductor/

    Baker's method is a bit more complicated, but you can read about it at: http://www.gravwave.com
    ----------

    ### Missing Scientist Update: ###

    Dr. Ning Li is still missing, and I will post the DoD funding receipt showing where she's probably at below:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Department of Defense Annual Report on Cooperative Agreements and Other Transactions Entered into During FY2001 Under 10 USC 2371
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Agreement Number: DAAH01-01-9-R001

    Type of Agreement: Other Transaction for Prototype

    Title: Gravito - Electro Magnetic Superconductivity Experiment

    Awarding Office: US Army Aviation and Missile Command (AMCOM), AMSAM-AC-RD-BA

    Awardee: AC Gravity, LLD

    Effective Date: 25 Apr 2001

    Completion Date: 25 Sep 2002

    U.S. Government Dollars: $448,970

    Non-Government Dollars: $ 0

    Dollars Returned to Government Account: $ 0

    Technical objective of this effort including the technology areas in which the project was conducted:

    Approximately 10 years ago Dr. Ning Li, then a research physicist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, began working on a theoretical model of forces generated by type-II superconductors and the possibility of generating and controlling significant gravitational forces via this new theory. The basic idea of Dr Li's is that a superconducting disk will produce a significant gravitational field if a certain type of magnetic field is externally applied. This Other Transaction will represent the first attempt to experimentally confirm some of the theoretical predictions of this theory. It is hoped that providing experimental confirmation of the theory to the scientific community will validate the theory and allow the securing of further funding to develop a practical application of this technology.

    Extent to which the cooperative agreement or other transaction has contributed to a broadening of the Technology and industrial base available for meeting Department of Defense needs:

    This Other Transaction will allow the principal researcher (Dr. Li) to attempt experimental confirmation of a theoretical model of forces generated by type II semiconductors and the possibility of generating and controlling significant gravitational forces via this new theory. If successful, the payoffs would be enormous. i.e., the ability to generate gravitational forces artificially would allow for new forms of propulsion, new ways of controlling missiles and gun-launched munitions, the lowering of weight of heavy vehicles (i.e., making a 70 ton tank appear to weight much less), and the potential of deflecting or countering the guidance systems of missiles which rely on inertial guidance (like theater or intercontinental ballistic missiles). If unsuccessful, this avenue can be eliminated from future efforts, and would put to rest the controversy surrounding these theories.

    Extent to which the cooperative agreement or other transaction has fostered within the technology and industrial base new relationships and practices that support the national security of the USA:

    The company AC Gravity Inc., owned by Dr. Li, is considered to be a non-traditional contractor in that this company has not previously had any Government contracts or assistance instruments, such as grants or cooperative agreements. The potential of the cutting edge technology that is hoped to result from the confirmation of the experiment being conducted under this effort is of primary interest to the Government. The use of an OT is viewed as an appropriate means of attracting this company in its initial endeavor to do business with the Government because it eases much of the "red tape" that AC Gravity and other contractors associate with doing Government business. The success of this experiment would be of enormous value to DOD weapons and weapon systems.

     
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    "Gravity-Waves & Missing Scientists at American Antigravity.Com" | Login/Create an Account | 11 comments | Search Discussion
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    Re: Gravity-Waves & Missing Scientists at American Antigravity.Com (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 @ 22:06:03 UTC
    This is very interesting. The previous commenter can see the military applications so well---which I guess to
    G.I. Joe fans is much more important than any environ-
    mental or peaceful applications; hence the possible
    reasons why such technology will never see the light
    of day for generations.



    Re: Gravity-Waves & Missing Scientists at American Antigravity.Com (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, July 22, 2004 @ 16:35:03 UTC
    Nah, G.I. Joe and Cobra used red and blue lasers. I don't remember a sci-fi weapon like this in literature or media. The "TK rifle" of some RPGs comes close, from RIFTS and Alternity. But then they called it a "grav gun", using Einsteinian principles.


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    Re: Gravity-Waves & Missing Scientists at American Antigravity.Com (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 @ 19:38:05 UTC
    This is interesting technology. If they can crank up the pounds of force expressed into the hundreds or thousands, and have no degregation over distance or atmosphere, we could be talking a real SDI-quality weapon here. And on the terrestrial scale, forget using lasers to stop artillery shells or missiles - use a beam of gravitational force instead. Probably without the hardware problems of high-energy lasers.

    Science-fiction-wise, this would be an interesting way to end the Projectile Age and move into the Energy Age. Start issuing handguns and rifles that have spinning superconductors and dense capacitors, and you replace bullets with a gravitational beam that does similar damage. But no bullet, no sound, no recoil to compensate for, and no powder.

    Try to name a few non-weapon uses for a continuous or pulsed gravitational beam of force that is laser-straight and can deliver a wide variety of pounds of force to a target.



    Re: Gravity-Waves & Missing Scientists at American Antigravity.Com (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 @ 05:20:59 UTC


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    Re: Gravity-Waves & Missing Scientists at American Antigravity.Com (Score: 1)
    by nanotech on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 @ 18:41:55 UTC
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    I can name a handful right off the top of my head:

    1 Novel Crystal and Material Manufacturing:

    With the ability to project a beam of controlled gravitational force, one can squeeze matter down to tremendous pressures, forcing electrons closer to the nucleus of the atom, making super-dense material alloys.

    2 Cutting and Joining:

    You can do seamless and atomic and subatomic level welding/joining/bonding of matter.

    3 Weather Manipulation

    4 Asteroid Repulsion



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    Re: Gravity-Waves & Missing Scientists at American Antigravity.Com (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, July 22, 2004 @ 08:26:41 UTC
    Yup, your're right on the ball. This simple
    invention in fact is a greater breakthrough
    than the lightbulb or electricity ever was.

    It would give birth to countless useful
    applications, and make many of the
    anticipations in sci. fi. come to life. The same
    goes for other ZPF-related ideas (Dr. Bernard
    Haisch, Hal Puthoff, etc.) .

    Vacuum engineering will bring forth a new age in
    novel materials production (less matter in the
    creation of buildings), doors that can be completely
    sealed off, transport ships which require minimal
    materials and weigh very little.

    The environmental implications are incredible:
    imagine being able to create products from raw
    materials that can be re-used over and over again,
    or easily re-configured for other uses. This will
    destroy the capitalist system no doubt, as so much
    money is being made in producing non-renewable
    or non-returnable goods.

    Yet another reason why it won't see the light of
    day. Another problem is that patents may prevent the
    peaceful use and development of these applications.
    We've got a lot of changing to do before we're ready
    for this.

    --Raj


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    Re: Gravity-Waves & Missing Scientists at American Antigravity.Com (Score: 1)
    by nanotech on Friday, July 23, 2004 @ 07:03:55 UTC
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    Wow, excellent points you made, Raj.
    You know, while Star Trek is fiction and alot of the plots are ridiculous, there is an interesting lesson I noticed on there, that relates to your above post. In the Star Trek universe, before the advanced technologies were released and put to use by the people and for the people, the "old governing body" and the rich families and all their bureacrats were taken out of the way in the Third World War.. that is pretty sad but perhaps it is a commentary on one of the ways that such things as cold fusion and zero point converters would find their way into the hands of the rest of us.



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    Re: Gravity-Waves & Missing Scientists at American Antigravity.Com (Score: 1)
    by DreamJo on Sunday, August 01, 2004 @ 10:19:27 UTC
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    With these weapon systems, we are ushering in an age of Life "Living in the Presence of my Enemies." Not knowing one could be a target for practice.
    Portable wepons Must be properly safeguarded but DNA signatures can be altered same as the mobile phones IMEI replaceable code?

    Who knows if the Columbia had one such weapon that malfunctioned during reentry generating static.


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    Re: Gravity-Waves & Missing Scientists at American Antigravity.Com (Score: 0)
    by Anonymous on Thursday, July 22, 2004 @ 16:32:00 UTC
    I think (4) Asteroid Repulsion is a weapons use. :-)

    So making a "rotating platter" about 1 meter radius, attaching a motion detector to the system, and having a force-based antipersonnel system.


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    Re: Gravity-Waves & Missing Scientists at American Antigravity.Com (Score: 1)
    by kurt9 on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 @ 21:31:13 UTC
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    This is interesting work and does have a scientific basis. The recent gravity probe that NASA launched a few months ago is supposed to determine the "frame draging" aspects of gravity waves.

    I know a writer who flew to Sweden to interview Dr. Podkletnov and came away with mixed impressions. My impression is that even if this does work, it is a rather expensive way to overcome gravity because the energy going into the superconducting disks is greater, if scaled up for an antigravity vehicle, than if it is a conventionally power turbine aircraft.

    Howver, the weapons aspect of this work are quite obvious.

    Whats very clear to me is that any new breeakthroughs in physics will come from research in gravity and the quantum vacuum. We still do not have a useful theory of quantum gravity.



    Re: Gravity-Waves & Missing Scientists at American Antigravity.Com (Score: 1)
    by nanotech on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 @ 18:47:04 UTC
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    What is very interesting about this, as well, and the disappearance of Ning Li, is that I have a book by a man who shows you all sorts of spinning conical devices that allow one to manipulate the zero point vacuum energy and gravi-magnetic energy (I can get you the title, if you want, its been for sale, and is A VERY EXCELLENT BUY, I would suggest getting a copy of it), he discusses Doctor Ning Li, and there is a USC paper in there that discusses how to build a gravity generator based on continued work of Podkletnov, and, goes on to show that this USC paper was taken down and taken back, probably forced by the heads of USC and whatever govt backers were present. So sad :O(





     

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