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New Era in Physics
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 @ 03:37:46 PST by rob
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Anonymous writes: Among the opening quotes on AIAS homepage is that of Prof. Bo Lehnert, member of the Royal Swedish Academy and part responsible for selecting Scientists for receiving the Nobel Prize. I.e., he is "serious stuff".
"Electromagnetic field theory still remains far from a completed area of research, and a new era of epochmaking investigations appears now to have its dawn. Myron Evans is one of the outstanding pioneers in this field of modified and extended theories. New fundamantal properties in photon physics are thus due to Evans, such as the Evans-Vigier longitudinal magnetic field component in the direction of propagation of the photon, and an associated small but nonzero photon rest mass. As a continuation of Einsteins ideas, a new unified field theory on electromagnetism and gravitation has also been developed by Evans which debouches into a general form which reduces to all the main equations of physics in appropriate limits."
---Bo Lehnert
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Re: New Era in Physics (Score: 1)
by bender772 on Friday, January 30, 2004 @ 11:04:15 PST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.suppressedscience.net | I don't want to be a naysayer, but just for balance, I would like to mention that the claims of the AIAS group to have discovered a revolutionary new theory of Electromagnetics are disputed. W. A. Rodrigues Jr. (who has authored several groundbreaking papers on electromagnetic "X-Waves" aka undistorted progressive waves) has authored a devastating critique of the claims of the AIAS group . His paper titled
The Non Sequitur Mathematics and Physics of the 'New Electrodynamics' of the AIAS Group
makes the case that
"the AIAS group collection of papers on a "new electrodynamics" recently published in the Journal of New Energy, as well as other papers signed by that group (and also other authors) appearing in other established physical journals and in many books published by leading international publishers (see references) are full of misconceptions and misunderstandings concerning the theory of the electromagnetic field and contain fatal mathematical flaws, which invalidates almost all claims done by the authors. " |
Those debunkers claims were easily refuted. (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Friday, January 30, 2004 @ 13:51:12 PST | If you go to the AIAS website and do a little looking around you will find a paper in which Myron Evans refutes each and every single thing in that paper with science and documentation.
Face it, Myron Evan's is on to something and the powers that be don't like it.
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Re: Those debunkers claims were easily refuted. (Score: 1)
by bender772 on Friday, January 30, 2004 @ 18:27:56 PST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.suppressedscience.net | I never claimed that Evans is incorrect and that his distractors are correct. I simply pointed out that there are (apparently mathematically educated) people who believe that Evans' theories are nonsense.
I do not understand enough of the mathematics involved to judge who is correct and who isn't. Do you? |
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Re: New Era in Physics (Score: 1)
by bender772 on Friday, January 30, 2004 @ 18:31:37 PST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.suppressedscience.net | | On a personal note, I've been following the works of the AIAS group for several years, and I certainly *want* to believe that they are geniuses and on to something big. I'm not trying to tear them down, nor am I a member of the vacuum energy suppression conspiracy. I simply wanted to inject some realism into this debate. |
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Re: New Era in Physics (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, January 31, 2004 @ 00:17:21 PST | I do not understand the math or physics well enough to make a complete and total judgement. However, if you read the refute of that other article you will see how AIAS backs up their side with documentation.
The other group apparently made some very ignorant statements.
You see, Myron Evans and his associates are VERY educated in VERY advanced math.
What I think is that the people who wrote that article simply did NOT have a solid grounding in the advanced math that he uses. So they thought he had made several mistakes. |
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Re: New Era in Physics (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, January 31, 2004 @ 01:40:43 PST | There seems to be a number of practical applications based on the Evans-Vigier (B(3)) field, that now start to submerge (you'll find links at the AIAS site). Both in Japan and USA companies are developing technology based on the B(3) field that W.A. Rodrigues Jr claims doesn't exist. That should also be thought of in the context of Rodrigues critique.
Afaik, there have been no experimental evidence for the "X-Waves" ala Rodrigues, but I might be wrong here, so if anyone has info on that I'd be glad to know about it.
-Gog
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Re: New Era in Physics (Score: 1)
by ElectroDynaCat on Monday, February 02, 2004 @ 17:26:36 PST
(User Info | Send a Message) | | I have always thought that we will have crossed the threshold of the New Paradigm when the crackpot and legitimate theories cannot be discerned from one another, AIAS has just made a step in that direction. Remember that the next great breakthrough will look the same as the most extreme crackpot idea. Someone should delve into the ideology of the crackpot verses orthodoxy and try to elaborate on what distiguishes a crackpot from a true Paradigm Shift. I would imagine that the conceptual distances between the two are not that great. |
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Re: New Era in Physics (Score: 1)
by Rob (rob@zpenergy.com) on Monday, February 02, 2004 @ 23:39:58 PST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.zpenergy.com | I agree. It was once said that the line between genious and idiocy is very thin. I guess the analogous is true for Science.
In this case I feel that in comparison to Evans' theory, string theory and Big Bang seem like the crackpot ideas. Otoh, this might again prove your point ;-)
/Rob
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No energy to be extracted from the vacuum (Score: 1)
by vlad on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 @ 21:56:41 PST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.zpenergy.com | (a review of a former article in this journal)
by Gerhard W Bruhn [Darmstadt University of Technology, D 64289 Darmstadt, Germany]
Phys. Scr. 74 No 5 (November 2006) 535-536
Abstract
Abstract.
A few years ago a hopeful article (Evans 2000 Phys. Scr.61
513–7) appeared in this journal promising that according to its 15
authors' opinion the pending energy crisis could be solved by
'extracting energy from the vacuum'. However, in the past years the
energy price has grown to unthinkable heights: a reason for having a
look at the promised 'energy from the vacuum' in (Evans 2000). So we
shall do so below and shall arrive at a great disappointment: the 15
authors were in error; their vacuum energy stems from a simple flaw of
thinking by misinterpreting the well-known Lorenz term of the classical
Maxwell gauge theory. Their miraculous conclusion should have made the
authors suspicious, that just the Lorenz term should yield a vacuum
current. Surely, its a pity that vacuum currents and vacuum energy in
(Evans 2000) have their origin merely in a simple flaw of thinking, and
all further speculations for a vacuum energy density are in vain.
However, better to return to reality. Quote: Abstract of [1]: Great announcements... It
is shown that if the Loren(t)z condition is discarded, the
Maxwell–Heaviside field equations become the Lehnert equations,
indicating the presence of charge density and current density in the
vacuum. The Lehnert equations are a subset of the O(3) Yang–Mills field
equations. Charge and current density in the vacuum are defined
straightforwardly in terms of the vector potential and scalar
potential, and are conceptually similar to Maxwell's displacement
current, which also occurs in the classical vacuum. A demonstration is
made of the existence of a time dependent classical vacuum polarization
which appears if the Loren(t)z condition is discarded. Vacuum charge
and current appear phenomenologically in the Lehnert equations but
fundamentally in the O(3) Yang–Mills theory of classical
electrodynamics. The latter also allows for the possibility of the
existence of vacuum topological magnetic charge density and topological
magnetic current density. Both O(3) and Lehnert equations are superior
to the Maxwell–Heaviside equations in being able to describe phenomena
not amenable to the latter. In theory, devices can be made to extract
the energy associated with vacuum charge and current.
Print publication: Issue 5 (November 2006)
Received 2 June 2006, accepted for publication 21 June 2006
Published 11 October 2006 |
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