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DEFKALION’ S LENR- from Discovery to Invention
Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2012 @ 11:01:15 UTC by vlad
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 Posted by Peter Gluck in Ego Out: These are my first comments re the paper
”Defining a New Source of Energy” presented by John Hadjichristos, CTO of Defkalion Green Technologies, at
the National Instruments Week, Austin, TX August 8, 2012
I take full responsibility for the statement that this is a landmark
publication in LENR and that things and thinking will be different when
the LENR researchers will understand the very spirit of this paper. Some
people will accept this fast, some very slowly- Inertia is name of the
game for many.
The essence is that LENR is converted now from a Discovery (smart,
surprising, confusing) to an Invention (very smart, creative, radical,
controlled). It is a change of attitude from try and wait to change in a
planned manner.
This paper represents a new orientation and is the start of a New Wave
in LENR. It has a great value “per se” but an even greater value as an
example. It is a new scientific-technological strategy.
In the present state of affairs it is more important HOW they are doing
it than WHAT they are doing specifically, there are probably more
alternatives to the technology.-having the aim of abundant generation of
vacancies that act as NAE at high temperatures.
LENR is about the relationship between pairs- nuclear marriages of a
metal and a gas; initially the mutual attraction between these is not
high enough for a success, the participants have be changed in nature
and in properties in order to become perfectly compatible. Obviously,
not Defkalion has discovered this, from the ancient CF times, the metal
(mainly palladium) was treated by very inventive methods. Admirable
creativity was demonstrated by Arata. Ahern and many others in using
nanotechnology for making palladium and alloys a better nuclear partner
for deuterium and by Piantelli who has made a better choice of metal-
nickel and has applied the highest science and even art of
nanotechnology to force nickel to reveal its best properties and virtues
in his process.
But now, Defkalion goes more steps further, makes a complete job. They
consider that the gaseous participant of LENR, hydrogen, must be also
brought in a very special status in order…to follow the order: Unite!
And instead of a simple theory- LENR+ will be explained and understood
by an aggregate of more theories combined with elements of know-how. In a
sense, a realistic and useful LENR + theory cannot be separated from
actions having the purpose to enhance the effect and from pragmatic
engineering. “Pure” theories are beautiful and simple but do not work.
And it is LENR+ because at high temperatures the generation of NAE-
vacancies is orders of magnitude more intense than in the case of
classic LENR.
The paper demonstrates that DGTG has worked out an original process and has not taken it from Andrea Rossi.
I hope the Hadjichristos paper will be thoroughly discussed because the
LENR community can learn a lot of it. I hope the professional detractors
and the fans of Detailitis will focus on other subjects.
I had the privilege to read this paper in raw form and to make some
corrections. I had the impression that I am like a guy who sees for the
first time the Venus of Milo and his first remark is that she has a
small wart on her ass. I have found two typos.
This paper has to be understood. But this will not be easy.
It is of symbolic importance that DGTG was the only group to honor
Martin Fleischmann during the NI Week with a small call for a moment of
silence during the technical presentation. They belong to our community
and are not some aliens. LENR+ is a natural, vitally necessary
continuation of LENR that has to grow up if it wants to survive and
prosper.
Peter
Source:http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/08/defkalion-s-lenr-from-discovery-to.html
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DEFKALION: THE BIG BAD PROBLEM IS DEFINITION OF LENR (Score: 1)
by vlad on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 @ 20:48:46 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.zpenergy.com | Peter Gluck writes: Dear Friends,
I have just published a paper inspired by Defkalion's recent publications. It is about LENR definition and theory and its SPECIAL TARGET IS THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE THEORY PANEL AT ICCF 17.
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/08/defkalion-big-bad-problem-is-definition.html [egooutpeters.blogspot.ro]
Best wishes to you all,
Peter
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Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
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Edmund Storms writes: Peter, I do not think the problem is what the phenomenon we call LENR is called. People who matter are not put off using the word nuclear in LENR or the word environment in the designation NAE. The problem is the inability of anyone to agree on how the phenomenon actual works or even agree on what some of the observations mean. We are blind men touching an animal who can not even agree on the kind of animal we are touching let alone which part.
My contribution has been to point out the possibility that ALL the explanations are wrong because they are applied to the chemical structure. If I'm right, we need to start over in trying to find an explanation. If I'm right, people are wasting their time even though some of the models have been useful in suggesting experimental approaches. After all, the 4 elements in Alchemy were a useful concept for 600 years even though the idea was obviously wrong. However, I see very little willingness to accept my idea or even explore the possibility - not even in your essay.
Ed
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Daniel Rocha writes: Those slides
and also their paper presented on ICCF 17, which is also available, are sadly
inconclusive. They just add confusion to the mass.
I asked someone to ask defkalion people if they
had done isotope analysis and to ask what were the light elements.
They said they did no isotope analysis, yet they
said there was no transmutation of Ni. I don't know how could they conclude
that.
Also, they did not find Triton, He3 or He4 among
the light elements. They found lithium, beryllium and boron, though.
So, they claim things completely different from
any group before them. They are sloppy and illogical . I am completely
confused. Maybe they do not have good intentions, after all?
Considering only the paper presented in the
conference, it is not clear to me if they used isotopic ratio mass
spectroscopy, which means, it seems did not try to determine the isotopes, they
just plotted the variation of the mass of the samples with great accuracy. It's
not possible to figure out if the samples were contaminated.
It seems they used this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductively_coupled_plasma_mass_spectrometry [en.wikipedia.org]
When they should have also used:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotope-ratio_mass_spectrometry [en.wikipedia.org]
Their data on small mass elements is still
crazy, just with the crude method. This is unlike anything that was seen
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Re: DEFKALION’ S LENR- from Discovery to Invention (Score: 1)
by dobermanmacleod on Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 06:18:41 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | | "LENR is about the relationship between pairs- nuclear marriages of a metal and a gas; initially the mutual attraction between these is not high enough for a success, the participants have be changed in nature and in properties in order to become perfectly compatible."
I beg to differ slightly. LENR is not necessarily about "nuclear marriages of a metal and a gas, unless you mean the evaporation of hydrogen in nickel.
Instead, it appears that the main role of the "metal" is providing a "lattice" for the hydrogen atoms to squeeze into. Mitsubishi seems to think any material that provides a suitable "lattice" (i.e. the right size cracks for the hydrogen atoms to squeeze into) would do.
It appears what is really happening is that the hydrogen electron and proton join to form an ultra-low momentum neutron, which is absorbed by surrounding atoms.
When those surrounding atoms shed that excess energy through a process called "beta-decay," they produced heat (and a little low energy gamma radiation).
The real beautiful thing to me is that this absorption of neutrons and consequential beta-decay is a known process called "nuclear transmutation." In other words, the heat in LENR is caused by transmutation!
If it is a nickel atom that absorbs the neutron(s), then it turns into copper or iron. If it is a hydrogen atom that absorbs the neutrons, then it turns into deuterium, tritium, and helium. |
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