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Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 @ 07:41:23 EST by vlad

Contact: Mark Goldes, 707 829-9391, magneticpower@gmail.com

Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years

A major new report on global warming raises fears that the earth's climate is changing faster than anyone thought possible. This week, 500 of the world's top scientists met behind closed doors to finish a landmark report on global warming, and the picture they paint is not pretty. The report says significant changes in the climate could start happening within the next 10 years with the result that the growing level of greenhouse gas emissions could make many parts of the planet uninhabitable.”

A flurry of activity surrounding research into emergency measures like mirrors to reflect the sun’s rays back into space is being billed as too drastic for right now. No one is sure that even such measures will do any good.

Magnetic Power Incorporated (MPI), is one of several small firms working to develop an abundant, renewable, inherently inexpensive, source of energy that has never previously been utilized in practical products, although evidence shows it was probably first tapped by Wesley Gary, a Pennsylvania inventor, in 1874. An article in Harper’s, describing his patented mechanical magnetic devices, was published in March, 1879. The article described the potential as follows:

A few scientists, however, came forward, curious to see, and examined Mr. Gary's models; and when reports went out of the conversion of two or three of the most eminent among them, interest generally was awakened, and professors from Harvard and from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology called, examined, and were impressed…
…And it is not incredible that in 1880 one may be holding a magnetic motor in his pocket, running the watch which requires no winding up, and, seated in a railway car, be whirling across the continent behind a locomotive impelled by the same agency.

Harper's New Monthly Magazine - March 1879 pages 601-605

“The price of ignoring the scientists’ warnings could result in the forced migration of hundreds of millions of people from equatorial regions, and the loss of vast tracts of land under rising seas as the ice caps melt, “ said MPI CEO Mark Goldes, and our technology can make a difference. “None of the conventional renewable power systems, solar, wind, fuel-cells, etc., can meet this challenge, although every carbon-free alternative helps.”

“Nuclear power plants take 10 years to begin operation. Clearly, the idea they can contribute to a solution, within the given timeframe, is an illusion.”

We believe the same source of power Mr. Gary discovered can be harnessed through the use of Magnetic Power Modules that MPI has been designing. The remarkable source of energy they convert is sometimes called the Quantum Vacuum. It is also known as Zero Point Energy, or ZPE. Physicist Richard Feynman, a winner of the Nobel Prize, and John Wheeler, a favorite of Einstein’s, calculated there is sufficient ZPE in the volume of a coffee cup to evaporate Earth’s oceans. Dr. Harold Puthoff has stated that if ZPE powered the entire planet, it would be like dipping a thimble into the sea.

The March 1st, 2004 issue of Aviation Week and Space Technology featured an article headlining the fact that Zero Point Energy is no longer science fiction. The Department of Defense admitted it is supporting ZPE research and development at a major aerospace company. BAE, in the U.K., stated they seek to power Mach 4 fighter aircraft, among several other objectives.

If MPI is successful, Magnetic Power Modules will open a door to a multitude of practical products. Goldes states “they will operate with no need for fuel, or any plug connection to the electric power grid. Portable appliances, for example laptop computers, will dispense with batteries”.

Modules can be connected together in order to produce larger amounts of power, in a manner analogous to solar cells. Preliminary data suggests a 1 kW (1,000) watt package may be about 6” x 6” x 16” in size. These one kilowatt packages can be linked to create generators for homes. Distributed Generation of utility grade power can also rapidly be implemented.

Electric cars, such as the recently announced GM VOLT, can dispense with the need for batteries, engines of any kind, fuel cells, or the need to plug-in. All new cars can be redesigned to run on this revolutionary source of energy.

During WWII, the automobile industry shifted to building aircraft on a round-the-clock basis more rapidly than most would have imagined. Averting a catastrophe due to Global Warming deserves a similar emergency effort.

MPI is one of a number of companies around the world attempting to accelerate their efforts to unlock Wesley Gary’s energy source. Concerned individuals, potential partners and state and national governments, can all help to increase the speed and probability of timely success.

Mark Goldes
Chairman & CEO
Magnetic Power Inc.
Room Temperature Superconductors Inc.
301A North Main Street
P.O. Box 880
Sebastopol, CA 95473



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Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by malc on Monday, February 05, 2007 @ 00:59:26 EST
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These Magnetic Power Modules have been a "solution" for quite a while now.  So long in fact that I don't believe it anymore. If you have something why isn't it on the national news. You might have difficulty "selling" it to the US public who have been lied to for years by the administration about global warming but over here in Europe it's different.  I also have a sneaking suspicion that China wouldn't give a damn about upsetting existing energy cartels and would welcome a device like yours with open arms. So get a demo version over here, get it built, cheaply, in China!

Less talk more action and news reports via normal news channels.

BTW I still believe Steorn but their approach is completely different. They have a jury verification process on the go and production supposedly ready to roll.

Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Overtone on Monday, February 05, 2007 @ 11:59:15 EST
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Development of commercial products is now on the hoizon.

Three very large domestic firms are evaluating MPI technology.

One seeks an alternative to batteries for laptops, etc.

Another is looking at power for computers and servers.

The third is interested in our 1 kW Magnetic Power Module(tm).

Normal news channels usuallly will not report on what they consider fringe science. This is one of the reasons Steorn placed their ad in the Economist and established a jury to pass on their work.

Development could accelerate sharply with adequate working capital. Steorn has raised almost $8 million in the past year, mostly from Angel investors. Their stock value multiplied from $366/share to more than $2,080/share between January 1st and December 31st, 2006.  That is more than a 400% increase in 12 months. (And, it probably was actually only 9 months, since they have stated they stopped taking investments when they ran their ad.) We would be very happy to experience similar support.



Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Sigma on Monday, February 05, 2007 @ 15:55:28 EST
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Whatever happened to the evaluation of your technology by earthtech?


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Overtone on Monday, February 05, 2007 @ 17:05:59 EST
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They moved to a new location in Austin. We are modifying equipment in accord with their suggestions, to make it practical to use their MOAC, the Mother of All Calorimeters.

Like all else in our program, this work could be accelerated, if...



Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by ryandinan on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 @ 09:49:44 EST
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I agree completely.  Mark, you need to quit bitching about "lack of funds" and freakin' show people that what you have, actually works.  If it doesn't work, then you're going to have a hard time convincing more people to invest money into something that has an infinitely small chance of success.  You will of course, find someone that is willing - which I suppose is why you're here, AGAIN, saying the same shit you've been saying for years now.  "We're on the horizon!"  "We have modules ready for testing!"  "Just a few more weeks!".  You're like a broken record.


Looks like you're getting scared of Steorn and their approach.  Not that I think Steorn has provided any more evidence of a working device (or a "jury" for that matter) than you have, except they aren't asking for (or taking) money.  Only time wil tell with them.

As for you, I used to have hopes for your "device".  But now, I just don't believe you.  If you truly had something that worked, you wouldn't know what to do with all the money that would be thrown at you.  The reality, is that you probably have something that just doesn't work, but "interesting" enough to convince/confuse a small few to take a peek or actually invest money.

The real money stays away, because you haven't demonstrated anything that warrants true investors.

Now, quite your begging.  Demo it if it really works.  Hook it up and let it power a load for a month in public view.  That can't cost too much, can it?  After that, if it works, you'll have all the money you need.




Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Overtone on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 @ 13:08:46 EST
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Three major firms and two independent labs are now talking with us and evaluating our technology.

A public demonstration, or any publication whatsoever, immediately ends the possibility of patenting in South Korea or Taiwan, etc.

Our problem is not major capital, large funders have been interested and moving toward MPI for some time. Unfortuantely, those transactions take a great deal of time to close.

It is a shortage of bridging capital that slows our progress, and that may be very temporary, based on recent progress in the labs.



Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by ryandinan on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 @ 19:57:05 EST
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I am quite familiar with patents, and how they "work".  Having a patent only means anything IF you have a large war chest of money to go to battle with, if someone infringes.  Besides, South Korea, Taiwan, China, etc, isn't going to give a flippin' hoot about a patent.  They'll copy it once something is out there, and make some little change here or there to bust the pantent (if they care enough to do that).

Is your technology patented here in the US?  If so, and your tech actually works (you can patent almost anything ya know), give a public demo here in the states - invite media, press, etc, and let it go wild.  If what you have is real, those that have any stake in the matter will know, and contact you with offers.

Please don't blame this on "bridging capital" - it's all money.  If money is slowing down your "progress", then you likely have nothing that works.  If your tech worked, and it showed the slightest indication of over unity performance, money would find you.  Show us what you have.  If it appears to work, then Im positive that someone would give you a nice juicy offer to buy you out immediately, and you could retire a rich man.  You have absolutely NOTHING TO LOSE to show your device in an operation display.  If you can't (or won't) do that, then you in fact have nothing to show.  Which is why Im sure you're having problems finding "bridging capital".

Really, I wish your device was real, but honestly, after seeing how you reacted on Steorn's forums, I have to say I lost all hope that what you claimed you had was real...



Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Sigma on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 @ 23:00:32 EST
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Well regardless of whether MPI has something tangible, I am still hoping that atleast one "free" energy company gets a device out this year. I've got my money on Potomac Energy Projects.


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by malc on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 @ 07:56:24 EST
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This kind of technology will the save the world from screwing itself up with its current fossil fuel addiction.  It will also relieve many countries from turning a blind eye whilst atrocities are commited in countries with oil.  There is a moral aspect here. There is even a selfish aspect, YOUR safe future depends on the fossil fuel cycle from being broken.

You ARE GUARANTEED to make an absolute fortune with anything that breaks the vice like grip of fossil fuels irrespective of any patents. 

SO I'm afraid the argument about a lack of patents in far eastern countries doesn't wash.  Anyway what would you do if they broke the patent, especially a country like China. Sue them IN CHINA !!!!!! I don't think so.

Reality check here..........


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Overtone on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 @ 09:41:36 EST
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I agree with the first paragraph of your comment.

Nothing is guaranteed in the business world!

The patent systems in many countries, including our own, have much room for improvement. However, Chinese companies have begun seeking to have thier government respect patents, since they are beginning to have a few they would like to protect.

We are a licensing firm, not a manufacturer. Patents are the backbone of companies such as ours.

Work in our labs suggests this is the year the first generation of our solid-state generators will begin to move into production, but many factors are involved and we can only control some of them. 


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by ryandinan on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 @ 13:12:39 EST
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"However, Chinese companies have begun seeking to have thier government respect patents, since they are beginning to have a few they would like to protect."


Same problem here... A patent means dick unless you have the money to go to court and fight for damages.  Since you have trouble getting "bridging capital", I doubt you'll be able to defend your patent(s) if someone decides to infringe...

"We are a licensing firm, not a manufacturer. Patents are the backbone of companies such as ours."

Wait.  You're a licensing firm??  Since when?  I was under the impression that you were a developer of a "technology"?  The last time I checked, you needed a product to license in order to be a licensor...

"Work in our labs suggests this is the year the first generation of our solid-state generators will begin to move into production, but many factors are involved and we can only control some of them."

You said the same thing last year.  Yet, there have been no demonstrations that you even have a 1st-gen solid state generator that works as you claim.  How can you go to production without a product?  A better idea may be demonstrating that your tech works.



Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Overtone on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 @ 17:31:50 EST
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Patent defense is done on contingency by some of the best lawyers in the business. Fonar collected $128+ million from GE about 5 years ago for infringement of the first two Patents covering MRI.

We have a subsidary, Room Temperature Superconductors Inc., that holds three basic patents on our polymer Ultraconductors(tm). A massive pending application with 195 Claims will be divided into at least five more. Those will give us sufficient coverage to license these remarkable materials. That website is www.ultraconductors.com [www.ultraconductors.com] and the patents are posted.

Product development at MPI will soon result in a number of new patent applications, in addition to the initial one, now published by the USPTO, which covers an early design of one of our solid-state generators.

As mentioned earlier, we have three very large domestic firms interested in our generator technology. They are invited to see demonstrations.

We are a private, not a public, company, at least for now. Our demonstrations are only offered to Accredited Angels and Strategic Partners.


Ultraconductors? (Score: 1)
by Sigma on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 @ 18:09:42 EST
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Has RTS made any progress in creating wire? While I would think that ZPE or VPF modules is a great goal, perhaps concentrating entirely on getting the superconductors out the door would be more viable? Of course I don't know of the internal situation in your company besides what you have told us, but it seems that the RTS technology is far more advanced and would be accepted far more readily than ZPE by the scientific community. In addition a room temperature superconductor would net your company billions.

BTW, you really should update the ultraconductors website.


Re: Ultraconductors? (Score: 1)
by Overtone on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 @ 21:11:31 EST
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Making wire with Ultraconductors is a major goal. Unfortunately, we estimate it will take three years and cost $18 million.

Prior to the dot-com crash, the polymers were our major focus. We completed four government contracts and raised $5 million in Angel capital to bring them as far as we have.

However, since 2002, funding for high-tech companies without customers dropped sharply in the U.S..

Fortunately, not long after that, after evaluating impractical magnetic conversion technology for a couple of decades, we finally found the remarkable people who now form our energy development team and we could all see commercial products were likely to result from that work more rapidly.

It became possible to raise modest sums of Angel capital where a new source of energy conversion was the goal. We expect major revenues from licenses for Magnetic Power Modules this year, while similarly substantial sums from Ultraconductor license revenue may still be a couple of years out.

We hope to update both websites in the near future.


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by ryandinan on Thursday, February 08, 2007 @ 07:10:32 EST
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Comparing Fonar/GE to your is just not realistic.  They had patents on real devices that worked, and were out in the market generating money.  If someone were to infringe on your patent, you would need to front the money associated with defending it.
Hell, I work for a company that does a modest 180 million a year in sales, and we can barely afford to defend patents...

Anyway -

I think it's great that you say you have 3 large domestic firms that are "interested" in your device.  Care to share who these firms are?  Have they seen WORKING, PHYSICAL demonstration units that do what you claim?  Can your device currently be connected to a load, and power it (and itself) indefinitely?  Or is it still "all theoretical" at this point?

If you really have something that works, you should have no problems showing it to ANYONE that is interested - not just people who are willing to give you money first.  Forgive me for speaking frankly, but that is how SCAMS are run.



Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Overtone on Thursday, February 08, 2007 @ 07:56:14 EST
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The lawyer who trounced GE said when we first met, that he had read our initial RTS patent and, after more than a decade of litigating patents, ours was the first one he ever saw that contained no prior art. It is all new science. He expressed interest in defending our work on contingency and remains a friend.

The three firms have not given pemission to use their names, but we have indeed working, physcial demonstration units, that do what we claim.

I see no point in repeating what I have said about public demonstrations.

We do not believe individuals with science or engineering background will believe such work until they can see and examine the generators. That is why we are developing Desktop Demonstration Devices. They will be manufactured under license and eventually lead to toys. No batteries required.


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by ryandinan on Thursday, February 08, 2007 @ 09:23:26 EST
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Thanks for answering my questions directly.  That is a breath of fresh air.
As for your lawyer-friend who is willing to defend your patent, that's great.  I assume he is also willing to cover all the other up-front legal costs associated with a patent suit?

Anyway - that's not so important.  If you're afraid of patent-infringing asians ruining your chances of getting rich, that's your call.  But you better hurry, as I hear some folks in China have already shown generators that supposedly "work" to the powers-that-be in Beijing - and they plan to "give" one to each member of the U.N. as a gift...  If your tech works, you may stand a much better chance of making money if you just "gift" it to the world.  At the very least, you'd become famous, and could get rich off books and appearances for how you saved humanity from the necessity of OIL.

I mean, if you have demo units [right now] that produce more energy than they take to run, what have you possibly got to lose by showing it???
You're afraid that scientists and engineers won't believe they work, UNTIL you show them "desktop demonstration devices"??  I'm sorry, but no amount of B.S. sidestepping arguments will change the complete idiocy of that position.  As they say, the proof is in the pudding.  You have EVERYTHING to lose by NOT showing it.  Unless of course, you... have... nothing... that works.



Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Overtone on Thursday, February 08, 2007 @ 10:25:25 EST
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This is a Company that has been in business since 1984. Our stakeholders do not share your point of view.

We welcome competition. The world needs all carbon-free technology on an urgent basis for many reasons. The markets are huge.

In our opinion, the fastest way to get our technology to market is the path we are following. Others are welcome to use other approaches.

We anticipate licensing production worldwide as soon as possible. The firms we are already talking with have manufacturing capability in many countries.

Our products include both solid-state and rotary generators. Thus far, most other firms in this field have only mechanical devices. At least one of our solid-state systems can be manufactured at very modest cost in most electronics plants.

Fame and fortune are incidental to our primary objective, which is to make a major contribution, as rapidly as practical, to an end for the need for fossil and uranium fuels by providing a cost-effective, renewable, alternative.


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by ryandinan on Thursday, February 08, 2007 @ 13:47:11 EST
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How can you honestly believe that the path you are following, is the fastest way to get your "tech" out?  Just look at your own history on this board.  You have been saying the exact same things for quite some time now.  Obviously, things are not progressing like you keep saying.  I mean for god's sake, throw the community a bone.  Show us some photos, videos, or technical documents that at least show you have some MATERIAL behind these claims.  And I don't mean a photo of a room lined with aluminum foil, with scopes and other gear...

Steorn is in the same position as you in terms of proof, except the reason they're getting so much attention, is because they put up a very expensive ad, in a very widely-read publication, with a very clear message.
They command a different type of curiosity, because they don't APPEAR to be a scam - at least not yet.  If they are, nobody can figure out where the money is to be made...
You on the other hand... Well, I'm sure you know all about why people are cautious of your claims.  Look at it from our perspective if you don't.

Mark, I sure hope what you have is for real.  But everything I've seen from you sounds, walks, and looks like a duck... er, scam.  Sorry.  Any other logical person would agree.  You're asking for money to "help bring this technology to production", but you won't show your cards.  Money first.  You hope to find people that will read what you say, get seduced by the idea of "saving the world", and then throw in some dollars to help the cause.  What they don't immediately realize however, is that their investment is taken... and the "technology" will need further funding... again, and again, and again.  You keep them on the hook by telling them you're SO close - just a little more!

I'll say this again.  If you have a working OU unit - even on a small scale - and even if it looks like a "frankensteined" toaster, you would be making news around the world.



Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Overtone on Thursday, February 08, 2007 @ 14:53:41 EST
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We have never asked anyone to invest without performing Due Diligence. Only individuals who meet the SEC Accredited Investor rules ($1 million net worth or $200,000 if single or $300,000 if married) are eligible. Technical and financial information is provided in depth with a signed NonDisclosure Agreement. Development stage firms are high risk and the fact that a total loss of any investment is possible is stated in capital letters. Several investors and advisors have visited our labs. 

Hot fusion is a better illustration of your argument about people asking endlessly for further funding. Hundreds of billions of dollars over a period of decades and no experiment that has ever reached breakeven, let alone gone Over Unity. The scientists working on it have stated they hope to have a prototype by 2025 and a possible power plant by 2050. Ironically, the local utility, Pacific Gas and Electric Company, is the largest in the U.S. and has openly stated they would not want such a power source, even if it became available. They have had enough problems with nuclear power and neutron production from fusion remains a serious problem. Interestingly, PG&E again visited our website today.

As hard as it may be for you to believe, we are not interested in following the path you suggest for sound reasons. 


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by ryandinan on Thursday, February 08, 2007 @ 19:38:37 EST
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I'm sure your investors have good faith in you, otherwise they would not have invested in the first place.  And of course I know with any investment, there is a risk involved... some lower; some higher.
My point, is that perhaps your investors lack the knowledge to fully comprehend what they are dealing with, concerning your device and its technology.  This particular area of research has been historically proven to produce nothing.  Of course, this does not mean that nobody ever will succeed - it just means the chances are infinitely high that the investor will lose his/her money.

Which is why I keep going back to my point about making demonstrations public knowledge with this type of thing.  Keeping it "secret" will only lead to failure.  Today, the tools exist to share knowledge instantly, and with a broad audience.  Why not use those tools to your advantage?

Countless others share my view on this.  It doesn't make it the only view, but it certainly speaks volumes when most say "put up or shut up".  If you're not willing to show it to us, why are you here exactly?  This entire thread started because of the little article about your company and it's development of a miracle device... and how it could be come a reality... if... you had more capital.
Sounds like a sales pitch to me.  Instead of using this particular tool to share and show what you have, you use it to pursuede potential angel investors.

So what is going on with you being "so close" for so long?  You can't tell me you haven't been saying basically the same thing for years?  If you are at the stage with a functioning device that displays OU performance, you're DONE with needing capital.  You've proven the "impossible", and you can start choosing between the offers that will flood your door.  Instead, you're here on some small, niche website's forum, seeking potential investors.  Doesn't make sense man...

Like I said before, I hoped that you were for real (and still do, deep down), but there has been nothing you have shown - especially over the last few months - to convince me otherwise.



Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Overtone on Thursday, February 08, 2007 @ 23:35:22 EST
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Patience is all that is required.

We expect our technology will be in the hands of manufacturers soon enough to allow products to begin to appear in the market by the end of the year - perhaps in limited quantities depending on factors beyond our control, including the availability of parts not currntly mass produced.

We are in the process of transitioning to major capital, precisely because we are making good progress in the labs.

Mass production is the goal and our focus.

What you have suggested leads instead to a media circus, that inherently interferes with real accomplishment.

I am sure you mean well, but your suggested approach would slow, not accelerate, movement towards the market.

Time will tell the tale...


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by ryandinan on Friday, February 09, 2007 @ 08:33:43 EST
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Yes, time will tell.  I surely hope you have what you say.  I suppose all I can do is sit, watch, and wait.



Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Sigma on Thursday, February 15, 2007 @ 18:46:12 EST
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you could sit, watch and wait, or you could help out with some of the activities at Focusfusion.org. I'm actually thinking about creating a webpage dedicated to raising funds for them... or the fusion cause in general.


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by pulsed_ignition on Saturday, February 03, 2007 @ 22:30:30 EST
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The cure for Global Warming is energy efficiency at http://nanolube.net

Please check the contact info.


Cure for global warming (Score: 1)
by rsg on Friday, February 09, 2007 @ 20:40:00 EST
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The cure for global warming is to kick them all out of office and also eliminate the fedreal reserve.

Richard Gieser


Re: Cure for global warming (Score: 1)
by Beck on Friday, April 18, 2008 @ 07:48:52 EDT
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Or take all their "hot air" from their mouths from their lies and convert it to energy.  We can power refridgerators with it.  :)


Scientists offered cash to dispute climate study (Score: 1)
by vlad on Saturday, February 03, 2007 @ 11:09:55 EST
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Ian Sample, science correspondent
Friday February 2, 2007
The Guardian [www.guardian.co.uk]

Scientists and economists have been offered $10,000 each by a lobby group funded by one of the world's largest oil companies to undermine a major climate change report due to be published today.

Letters sent by the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), an ExxonMobil-funded thinktank with close links to the Bush administration, offered the payments for articles that emphasise the shortcomings of a report from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).


More: http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2004399,00.html [www.guardian.co.uk]

Re: Scientists offered cash to dispute climate study (Score: 1)
by rsg on Friday, February 09, 2007 @ 21:03:02 EST
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As with most of our wars, both sides of this show will be funded from the same purse.
Eliminate the federal reserve.

Richard Gieser


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Veryskeptical on Saturday, February 03, 2007 @ 14:55:13 EST
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Mr Goldes should stop using Global Warming as a justification for his work. Instead he should concentrate on bringing his device to market. Global warming is a political football in which the science, if any, is totally obscured by the political commitment. It does the new energy movement a complete disservice to refer to this ugly debate.

Anyone who has an interest in alternative energy is probably familiar with the scientific resistance to cold fusion. A resistance which shows the extreme prejudice and irresponsible behavior of many so called scientists. On the whole I would argue there is a great deal of evidence the sciences have given up scientific rigor for the justification of their personal commitments and passions. Under current conditions the scientific community is a group of people whose pronouncements should be treated with extreme care. The assertions of probity and innocence to these charges one may expect to hear should be dismissed. The credibility of this community is just too low to tolerate when great issues are at stake.

The claim to esoteric knowlege is a powerful weapon in the hands of iresponsible and malicious people for the very claim makes refutation impossible. If the knowledge is unintelligible to potential critics what can they make of it? The calling of conferences to proclaim the certainty of global warming is a shameless abuse of the claim. The shamen go to the back of the cave, roll the bones, and come foreward to proclaim the truth of the world to the unwashed masses huddling in uncertainty and fear.

Until the scientific arguments, both pro and especially con, are clearly and carefully delineated and compared in a thoroughly public manner for all to see with all unsubstantiated claims removed this whole debate should be avoided by any thinking person.

Vlad has through the quote from the Guardian in his comment pointed out that Exxon-Mobile has offered to finance studies with a likely anti-global warming slant. I understand the concern of bias this implies but it is also true that funding must come from somewhere and I doubt that any of the parties with money in this debate are without interest. The key question is how to get the financing for honest research when all financing entities are suspect for one reason or another of supporting only research that reflects their pont of view. It is clearly unacceptable to take their word for it.

Until the issues raised above can be satsifactorily addressed the debate over gobal warning shoud face a moratorium. I advise all alternative energy researchers to avoid this debate and go ahead with their work. If successful the issue of the contribution of carbon based fuels to gobal warming will take care of itself.

Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by malc on Monday, February 05, 2007 @ 01:18:44 EST
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The shift in "belief" in global warming has been significant over the past 20 years.  Surely with any scientific analysis of anything as the evidence increases the shift in the number of believers to skeptics goes one way or another.  The number of global warming skeptics is reducing rapidly. Many now silenced (especially the ones proclaiming glaciers are advancing worldwide!)

Your problem, like all hardened skeptics, is denial.  There is also some astonishing ignorance amongst the global warming skeptic public e.g. "the temperature here changes by 15C in  one day so how can 2C be a problem" - Jesus!  As for the cherry picking of evidence e.g. the link between global temperature and the suns activity, this is sometimes so bad there should be a law against it. Read the WHOLE report the conclusion is totally different and not what the skeptics want to see.....so they purposely don't !

Also note how the vast majority of skeptics come from the US a country where the administration has been caught modifying global warming reports before publication. In effect lying to its citizens for years. Shameful, but ask yourself why?


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by rsg on Friday, February 09, 2007 @ 21:15:28 EST
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Our (U.S.) administration are just puppets. Your puppets (U.K. and most of the rest of the world) are operated by the same puppeteers. Global warming is a distraction and a tool for them to gain greater control over us. It is unlikely there is anything man can do to effect climate changes unless you have your finger on the HAARP button. The credibility of the U.S. government amongst the population here is weak and slipping fast. 

Richard Gieser


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by Beck on Friday, April 18, 2008 @ 07:45:02 EDT
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The problem is not really the scientists, but the politicians behind it like Al Gore.  They take the information, cut out about 5/8 of it, give some bogus mathematics, based on non scientific formulas, then say they are quoting the scientists.  Global Warming involves a very complicated systemic regular actions of the Earth that is so complicated, it is asonine to think we could change the heavens by simply lowering our emissions.
Just to name a few:
Exponential population inflation
Trash in the Oceans reducing its CO2 absorption
lowered population of whales and other life that eat plankton: plankton puts out more CO2 than all the human pop combined.
Under water River Currents (still being argued)
Slash and burning of majority of world's forestry, causing deserfication
Is a natural phenomenom of the Earth: It has been hotter than this before
The Earth will do something on its own to deal with it: For every action there is an equal opposite reaction.
Figures actually show only one degree C. over past hundred years, mostly in the Northern Hemisphere.
Developement of tar and cement roads raise the temperatures during the day, some thermometers have been moved recently when it was realized having them at airports to monitor the temp for this research effected the data.
Less elliptical revolution of the Earth around the Sun (still under scrutiny)
Icebergs already in the Ocean in North Artic already is displacing the water, it won't raise it (a scienctific review of Al Gore's "An inconvenient (half) truth" showed how his calculations were off)

and the list goes on and on

The politicians of our Earth are going to wave magic wands though and change the heavens with back handed greasing of pockets with money by burning our food sources to deal with droughts to stop climate change.  A phenomenom even Scientists around the world still can't come to a common agreeable model.  Wow.  What do they teach in Lawyer school? How to be GOD?
You're right, and I'm in such an agreement with that, I'm ignoring them.  So are my peers....Except when we need a laugh or two.
Like Gore inventing the internet,,,you know?


Re: Revolutionary “New” Energy Source Has Been Neglected For Over 125 Years (Score: 1)
by techmac on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 @ 17:54:13 EST
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Thanks for your efforts on behalf of the good people of the nation, and for your release of patent information through the Patent Office. That information released the inner workings of your energy devices to the world. What more could they possibly want?


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