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New Perendev Motor?
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 @ 18:00:52 UTC by vlad
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technophile writes:  (From PESN.com News): Perendev to Launch 300 kW Self-Running Electromagnetic Generator in May
Draws energy from magnetic principles not presently appreciated by
mainstream science. Expected cost will be around 3/10 cents per
kW-h. Inventor, Mike Brady, says permanent magnet motor was too large, so
he designed this.
by Sterling
D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News - Exclusive Interview
Copyright © 2006 Famous in the fringe world of free energy for his claim to a working all-magnet
motor, complete with a video of the unit in operation, inventor Mike Brady and
his company have now shifted over to an electromagnetic design. "Now in
production", the new motor is said to have far more power coming from much
less size. It also draws its power from electromagnetic forces all around
us, but which are not yet fully appreciated by mainstream science.
Like an automobile engine, the Perendev electromagnetic motor is said to require
a battery to start, but once running it provides enough energy to run under its
own power as well as provide 300 kW max of electricity from an attached
alternator. "The battery will be recharged from the alternator while
the unit is running."
"Output is 110volt 3 phase or 380 volt 3 phase", which is enough
electricity to run nearly a hundred homes.
Perendev has announced on their website that they will be launching this new
product at a public demonstration at a hotel auditorium in Munich Germany in
May. Tickets to attend the demonstration are set at 100 Euros.
Details are pending.
Full story: Perendev New Motor
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Re: New Perendev Motor? (Score: 1)
by ElectroDynaCat on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 @ 19:17:09 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | "The battery will be recharged from the alternator while the unit is running." Otherwise known as the dead giveaway that this thing doesn't work as a true FE/OU device.
If this contraption really generated its own energy, the initiating battery could be disconnected and it should run by itself. Just think, if does self sustain, it wouldn't need a battery to start, a hand crank should do it.
More baloney, you'd think they would have realized by now that we are not that naive.
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Re: Re: New Perendev Motor? (Score: 1)
by malc on Thursday, March 23, 2006 @ 00:20:46 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://web.ukonline.co.uk/mripley | Not quite. The last thing you want is somebody hand cranking a generator, I know I've tried it at the Glasgow Science Museum. It's frigging hard just to get the lights working never mind a significant amount of power. So if the Perendev device requires to be running at a certain rate before it becomes self sustaining there is no way a hand crank will suffice. Therefore you have to have an external power source which will be drained during the startup. You may have to stop the device from time to time for maintenance or simply to hit the "off" switch in an emergency therefore you still need a starter.
So this is not necessarily an indication that it is a con. Only the failure in May will show that. NB a no show in May is a failure. A "problems means a delay until....." is a failure.
I will make my decision as to whether the claim is genuine on May 31st.
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Re: Re: Re: New Perendev Motor? (Score: 1)
by seanpu1 on Thursday, March 23, 2006 @ 02:52:52 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | that really is excellent news! The device may need a battery but so what, if thats how you get energy without any fuel so be it.
As for applications it would be great for apartment blocks and flats, large hotels, science outposts, hell even ships could use them to replace their fuel needs, could stick it in a spacecraft to get constant electricity rather than solar cells. Needs a battery? whats the problem? |
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Re: Re: New Perendev Motor? (Score: 1)
by bender772 on Thursday, March 23, 2006 @ 06:32:35 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.suppressedscience.net | | I think you're jumping to conclusions. Clearly, this device could only
- not operate at all, or
- operate according to new physical principles.
If it is the second, then there is no basis for authoritative statements on how it should or should not operate, and on whether close-looping should be a trivial exercise or not.
Maybe closing the loop is a highly nontrivial problem in vacuum engineering? How do you know that simply attaching the output to the input would not cause the unit to blow up? Or render it inert by short-circuiting the energetic pathways through which energy is collected from the vacuum?
You're like a critic of the Wright Brothers who dismisses the claim of flight because "the flying machine is heavier than air, which is a dead giveaway that the thing doesn't and can't work".
Without having the benefit of new, expanded theoretical principles that govern the operation of overunity devices, we should give overunity inventors the benefit of the doubt and not dismiss them outright because their claims do not conform to preconceived notions of how overunity devices should operate.
If there is a dead giveaway here, it's the 100 EUR price tag for the demonstration. That just screams scam. |
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Re: Re: New Perendev Motor? (Score: 1)
by Technophile on Thursday, March 23, 2006 @ 13:05:41 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | There are obvious reasons to be skeptical, but I don't see the requirement of a battery and alternator to be one of them. A motor that produces more power out than electrical power in doesn't necessarily imply that it must contain a built in electrical generator.
Perendev has made market-ready claims before that haven't panned out, but I, for one, am willing to cut him some slack for a month and a half. On the plus side, he hasn't been talking about this until now, and when he does start talking he gives a very near future date. That's not typical of scams, where it's all talk, and the production dates are usually in the nebulous future. I'm hoping he's done it for real, and since he's not asking me for any money, I can afford to keep my hopes for a bit.
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Re: New Perendev Motor? (Score: 1)
by Liberty on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 @ 19:21:23 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | This is okay if you are going to run a power plant of your own for 100 houses. But if you are an individual that wants to power his/her home, it is useless and over priced.
The logical question is: Will Mike Brady at (Perendev) make a smaller unit that is useful for the average person at home that is less expensive??? A smaller unit would sell much better than a unit that runs 100 houses.
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Perendev Patent (Score: 1)
by vlad on Monday, May 22, 2006 @ 16:51:43 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.zpenergy.com |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Goldes"
To: "Sterling D. Allan"
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: Brady Patent not issued! Application published...
Sterling,
Patents are issued by individual countries. The
PCT is a way of applying to several countries at once.
All such
patents are published 18 months following filing.
This is merely the
publication of his application.
There is no approval implied.
The
documents at the end indicate his application has been challenged as being a
perpetual motion machine, which no patent office in the world will
patent.
The name of his firm does not help his case in this
regard.
I wish him every success. The world needs this technology
urgently. [...]
Best,
Mark
Mark Goldes
Chairman &
CEO
Magnetic Power Inc.
Room Temperature Superconductors Inc.
301A
North Main Street
P.O. Box 880
Sebastopol, CA 95473
----- Original Message -----
From: Sterling D. Allan
To: Perendev Newsletter ...
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:51 PM
Subject: PCT Patent Awarded for Perendev
Magnet Motor
- Featured / Top 100:
Magnet
Motors > Perendev
> Perendev
Magnet Motor Patent Awarded - PCT international patent for "Permanent
Magnet Machine" awarded to Mike Brady May 4, 2006. Consists of magnets
repelling magnets as the only motive force. (PESWiki)
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