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    Powerless electrolysis of water
    Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 @ 08:32:51 UTC by rob

    Devices From jlnlabs eGroup: Chinese patent of method to dissolve water into hydrogen and oxygen without the need for external power supply.

    I couldn't find the patent at the EPO (maybe someone can fill in here?), anyway the abstract looks interesting:

    Abstract

    An apparatus for generating Hydrogen and Oxygen by means of electrolysis
    without requiring an external power. There are two main electrodes(the
    Anode and the Cathode) built at both sides of the Electrolysis
    compartment, in the said compartment there are multiple Electrode plates
    and gas separating membranes connected in series. At the upper part of
    the compartment, ducts convey Hydrogen and Oxygen separately to the
    repsective Gas Concentrating compartments. There is a separation built
    between the Electrolysis Compartment and the Gas concentrating
    Compartments. The Current Generating Tunnel is at the outskirts of the
    Electrolysis Compartment, the electrolyte can flow without hindrance
    from these Tunnels to the Electrolysis Compartment. Permanent magnets
    are fixed to the wall of the Current Generating Tunnels and Current
    Collecting Metal Connectors of both Positive and Negative poles are
    fixed to the ends of the permanent magnets for energy collection. These
    Metal Connectors are interconnected in series as shown in the drawings,
    the first connector is then connected to the Cathode and the last
    connector is connected to the Anode of the Electrolysis compartment.
    This invention does not require an external energy or traditional power
    to maintain the Electrolysis process.

    Claims

    1. A generator of Hydrogen and Oxygen by Electrolysis, without
    requirement of an external energy. The housing (3) of the device has two
    electrodes (the Anode(2) and Cathode(2)) connected at each end of it,
    inside the housing, a Electrolysis Compartment (1) containing Gas
    Separating Membranes (4) inserted between multiple Electrolytic
    Plates(6), these multiple sets of membranes and plates are manufactured
    and wrapped up by isolating rubber frames (13), there are Gas
    Concentrating Compartments (7), (20) for both Hydrogen and Oxygen
    separately, a division (8) is between the Gas Compartments and the
    Electrolysis Compartment. Some holes (5) are drilled in the division in
    order to convey gas produced to the indivudual Gas Concentrating
    Compartment for separate collection. The claim concerns to the Current
    Generating Tunnel (9) that is built around the Electrolysis Compartment,
    the said Tunnel communicate with the latter at the bottom, the upper
    part of the tunnels also communicate with the Electrolysis Compartment.
    There are permanent magnet bars (23) fixed to the walls of the tunnel,
    at the ends(North and South) of the magnet bars are the Positive
    electrodes and the Negative Electodes respectively(24) , (25), these
    electodes are interconnected in series as shown in the drawing, being
    the first electode connected to the Anode and the last one connected to
    the Cathode.
    2. The claim concerns about a circulation pump (26) is installed in the
    circuit between the Current Generating Tunnel and the Electolysis
    Compartment for electrolyte circulation.
    3. The claim concerns about the addition of the Current Generating
    Tunnel (22) around the Electrolysis Compartment.
    4. The claim concerns about claims (1) and claim (3), that the isolating
    frames are elastomer isolating frames( rubber).
    5. The claim concerns about claim (4) that the current producing sources
    are permanent magnet bars.

    Description of the operation of the apparatus

    An apparatus for splitting water into Hydrogen and Oxygen without the
    requirement of an external power

    This invention concerns a Generator of Hydrogen and Oxygen by means of
    electrolysis without requirement of an external supply of energy, such
    as electric current, petroleum derivated products or coal.
    According to Chinese Patent ZL 95220793, a type of H2-O2 Generator by
    electrolysis is disclosed. Such generator has a housing and a liquid
    deposit, with anode and cathod on both sides of the housing, with
    multiple sets of electrolysis plates and gas separating membranes
    inserted in the Electrolysis Compartment. At the top of the compartment
    there are two gas concentrating compartments, one for the H2, and the
    other for the O2. In order the generator to work, electrolyte has to be
    introduced into the compartment, and electricity is required. The
    apparatus consumes a great deal of electricity.
    The improvement of this invention is the elimination of the external
    power source such as electricity, petroleum derivated products or coal
    for producing H2 and O2.
    This is done by the following solution: an apparatus consisted of a
    housing with electrodes at each side of the housing, inside the
    Electrolysis Compartment multiple sets of Electrolysis Plates and Gas
    Separating Membranes are connected in series, each Plate and Membrane is
    framed by isolating elastomer, at the top of the Compartment there are
    compartments for the collection of H2 and O2 separately. They are
    separated from the Electrolysis Compartment by a division sheet. Holes
    are drilled through this sheet in order to convey the gases to the upper
    compartments. Outside the Compartment wall, a Current Generating Tunnel
    is located, both top and bottom of the tunnel communicate with the top
    and bottom of the Electrolysis Compartment. Multiple permanent magnet
    bars are fixed to the wall of the Tunnel. Collecting Electodes are fixed
    to the north and south ends of the magnet bars for current collection.
    The first of the electode is connected to the Anode and the last point
    of the last electrode is connected to the Cathode of the Electrolyser.
    The apparatus works as follows: Introduce electrolyte into the
    Electrolyser Compartment. The electrolyte consists of a Sodium
    Hydroxide solution at 20~30% (30% weight NaOH, 70% weight distilled
    water), activate the pump to circulate the solution, the circulating
    electrolyte within the Current Generating Tunnel will interact with the
    Permanet magnet bars, producing positive and negative ions, these ions
    cut the magnetic flux and will induce electric currents, the Collecting
    Electrodes will collect the induced currents to the Anode and Cathode,
    and the Electrolysis will initiate. While the process maintains and
    intensifies, heat will be soaked up by the electrolyte and the liquid
    will self circulate through the Tunnel by convection, and finally the
    circulation will self-sustain, therefore pump can be disconnected
    eventually. But in order to archive high production rate of gases, the
    pump can maintain its functioning.

    Drawings of the invention

    Drawing 1 Conceptual design of the apparatus (drawing 2 B-B cut-through
    view)
    Drawing 2 Drawing 1 A-A cut-through view of Gas Concentration
    Compartments
    Drawing 3 Electrolytic Plate
    Drawing 4 Gas Separating Membrane
    Drawing 5 Connnection of the Collecting Electodes with magnet bars and
    Anode and Cathode
    Drawing 6 Transversal view of this invention
    Drawing 7 Pump location and other particulars

    Referencing to Drawing 1 and 2, the apparatus has a rectangular housing
    (3), made of alkali resistant plastic (such as Polyethelene or
    Silicone), with a removable base (19), On one side of the Electrolysis
    Compartment is the Anode(2) and the Electrolytic Plate(12), on the other
    side is the Cathode(11) and the Electrolytic Plate (10), Inside the
    Electrolysis Compartment (1) there are multiple sets of Electrolytic
    Plates (6) with Gas Separating Membrane (4) inserted in-between. Sixty
    sets are used in this invention. Each membrane and its respective Plate
    are built with its individual isolating elastomer frame (look at drawing
    4), The rubber frame (13) is mold formed by injection to the membrane
    (4), the membrane is nylon-polyester fabric, of 300 seive finess and
    0.08mm thick. The rubber frame (14) is mold formed by injection to the
    Electrolytic Plate(6). At the bottom of the frame there is a channel for
    pressure balancing(21), also there is a returning path (15) at the
    bottom of the basement, through the channels(21), each electrolytc plate
    element can balance the level of liquid during the operation. The
    Division (8) separates the Electrolysis Compartment from the Gas
    Concentrating Compartments, holes (5) are drilled through the Division,
    and convey the hydrogen generated at one side of the membrane to one of
    the gas collecting compartment (20), the oxygen generated at the other
    side of the membrane is conveyed through the another set of holes to
    (7). (17) and (18) are exits for the H2 and O2 respectively. Curent
    Generating Tunnel(9) are located around the Electrolysis Compartment,
    both the top and bottom of the tunnel is connected to the top and bottom
    of the compartment. Multiple permanent magnet bars are fixed to the wall
    of the Tunnel. For this purpose, 40 Strong Rare Earth Magnets( BaFe) are
    used(See drawing 5). Collecting Electrodes (24) and (25) are fixed to
    the ends of the magnet bars, according to drawing 6 they are connected
    in series and also fixed to the anode and cathode of the apparatus.
    Drawing 6 shows the lateral disposition of the Tunnel (22)with respect
    to the Electrolysis Compartment, Drawing 7 shows the tunnel is connected
    to the compartment through channel (27), a circulation pump (26) is
    connected between them. For a higher rate of gas production, the
    permanent magents bars can be replaced by electromagnets, but then it
    will require an external power source.

     
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    Re: Powerless electrolysis of water (Score: 1)
    by ElectroDynaCat on Thursday, September 18, 2003 @ 13:04:53 UTC
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    Nothing to get excited about here, the 30% solution of NaOh is the giveaway to how the cell works. Electrolysis of water using DC current from the breakdown of the electrodes by electrolytic action of the NaOH on the plates. The magnets have nothing to do with the process. When reading a patent, keep in mind that its couched in legal terms and the science (or lack of science) is at least secondary.



     

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