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    ZPE is NOT FE
    Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 @ 22:25:52 GMT by vlad

    General Anonymous writes: i'm new to this web-site and found a lot of interesting information here. i have been (actively) involved in Zero Point Energy research since 1996, long before it became a buzz-word together with "free energy".

    although a lot of the articles seem to suggest that the two are somehow one and the same, i have to vehemently disagree.
    ZPE is not for free
    so far, research seems to suggest that ZPE is abundantly distributed in "empty" space but to tap into it, we still have to invest (a considerable amount of) energy.
    what we're looking for is a ratio where the output is far greater than the input.

    the phrase "free energy" has quickly turned into a stigma and the response you get from people who don't understand the dynamics of ZPE is usually quite negative.
    i take great care to avoid the word free in any discussion about ZPE as it is many things, but not free ...

    Andy


     
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    Re: ZPE is NOT FE (Score: 1)
    by vlad on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 @ 23:01:46 GMT
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    Andy, I'm sure you've made lots of us here curious about your "active" involvement in ZPE research. Could you share more concrete information with the readers of ZPEnergy, such as what is the status of this research (in terms of practical results, if you know)?...and I agree with you about the unfortunate stigma on "FE". But don't worry, most of us understand it correctly.



    Re: ZPE is NOT FE (Score: 1)
    by ElectroDynaCat on Sunday, September 14, 2003 @ 00:44:29 GMT
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    A true ZPE converter would ideally not need any input energy to to begin extracting energy from the vacuum flux. The preponderance of devices being revealed now all have the fatal flaw of requiring input energy to work. When closely examined it turns out that none of these devices actually produce any surplus energy. Usually they are rotating Faraday generators with some type of oddball field excitation circuits that provide the ILLUSION that they are producing more energy than what is put into them. The explanation for this is a complex set of factors that begin with the fact that the inventors of these supposed O/U machines do not understand how to measure electrical power. It is in fact a mistake made almost daily by electrical engineering students all over the world in their AC circiuts laboratories. (I know this because I was a electrical engineering lab instructor at a university). Eventually when these students get out of this lab class they will understand the difference between "apparent" power and "real" power in an AC circuit. Also there is an interesting interaction between the measuring devices and the electrical noise in the environment that makes the readings look even more skewed to overunity. If you really want to make the meters go crazy, start using a cellphone in the room. None of these large scale rotating disk devices has a snowballs chance of actually closing the energy loop and becoming a true O/U machine, unless of course there are so many cellphones active in the area that it actually could make one of these things work.



     

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