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    12inch miracle tube could halve heating bills
    Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 @ 19:20:53 PDT by vlad

    Devices iroanium writes: How this 12inch miracle tube could halve heating bills
    Amazing British invention creates MORE energy than you put into it - and could soon be warming your home

    DailyMail.co.uk - Science & Technology

    It sounds too good to be true - not to mention the fact that it violates almost every known law of physics.

    But British scientists claim they have invented a revolutionary device that seems to 'create' energy from virtually nothing.

    Their so-called thermal energy cell could soon be fitted into ordinary homes, halving domestic heating bills and making a major contribution towards cutting carbon emissions.


    Even the makers of the device are at a loss to explain exactly how it works - but sceptical independent scientists carried out their own tests and discovered that the 12in x 2in tube really does produce far more heat energy than the electrical energy put in.

    The device seems to break the fundamental physical law that energy cannot be created from nothing - but researchers believe it taps into a previously unrecognised source of energy, stored at a sub-atomic level within the hydrogen atoms in water...

    More: 12inch miracle tube
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    Read also the article from Wired: UK Scientists Create Free Energy. Apparently


     
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    Re: 12inch miracle tube could halve heating bills (Score: 1)
    by modernsteam on Monday, September 17, 2007 @ 20:27:19 PDT
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    Of course, those of us involved in New (ie., free) Energy figure the device is tapping energy from the quantum vacuum, what we have been calling "zero point" energy, although Tom Bearden has pointed out that referring to it as Zero Point Energy is not quite correct. So, with this device, it would be an input COP (Coefficient of Performance) of approximately 2. That's not normally enough for feedback to ensure self-running, simply because of losses along the way. So yes, it would appear this device would have to be connected to the mains (ie., grid) until a heater of much higher COP could be engineered.There's a 99.999999999% chance the invention does not create energy from nothing at all.

    It beats me that many science and technology journalists have not recognized a key principle of the Laws of Thermodynamics, together with vacuum energy, when they mention "created from nothing", after all these years since Pons and Fleischman, and before that with Ed Gray, Howard Johnson, T.H. Moray, Floyd Sweet, Nicola Tesla et al. These Laws refer only to closed systems, and tapping vacuum energy implies systems open to aetheric space. So, the journalists should at least investigate the high probability that the longitudinal waves of space (vacuum) energy are being utilized, and they're not created from nothing  ... as far as most of us Free Energy enthusiasts know.

    Hal Ade



    Re: 12inch miracle tube could halve heating bills (Score: 1)
    by vlad on Monday, September 17, 2007 @ 19:39:36 PDT
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    HalfMooner writes: Lyons, the guy the "The Mail" article says confirmed the device's efficiency, is a loony. To see just how loony:

    http://www.knightsrose.com/html/jim_lyons.html [www.knightsrose.com]




    Gardner Watts - the old story (Score: 1)
    by vlad on Monday, September 17, 2007 @ 20:16:51 PDT
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    Take water and potash, add electricity and get - a mystery
    By Robert Matthews, Science Correspondent
    Last Updated: 12:01am BST /05/2003

    British researchers believe that they have made a groundbreaking scientific discovery after apparently managing to "create" energy from hydrogen atoms.

    In results independently verified at Bristol University, a team from Gardner Watts - an environmental technology company based in Dedham, Essex - show a "thermal energy cell" which appears to produce hundreds of times more energy than that put into it. If the findings are correct and can be reproduced on a commercial scale, the thermal energy cell could become a feature of every home, heating water for a fraction of the cost and cutting fuel bills by at least 90 per cent.

    The makers of the cell, which passes an electric current through a liquid between two electrodes, admit that they cannot explain precisely how the invention works. They insist, however, that their cell is not just a repeat of the notorious "cold fusion" debacle [www.telegraph.co.uk] of the late 1980s. Then two scientists claimed to have found a way of generating nuclear energy from a similar-looking device at room temperature. The findings were widely challenged and the scientists, Martin Fleischmann and Stanley Pons, accused of incompetence, fled America to set up labs in France...

    More:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2003/05/22/ecncell18.xml [www.telegraph.co.uk]




     
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