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Testatika Generator Info
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 @ 20:34:20 UTC by vlad
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In the free-energy yahoo group, John wrote: This motor, which is supposed to be running in a commune in Switzerland, is it for real? AFIAK, apparently no one has managed to replicate this machine, despite some detailed drawings and descriptions around. It allegedly has turned a generator for free for the past 30 odd years.
If this is real and it can be replicated then all other over unity devices appear to be dead in the water.
Anyone have any futher news of this device?
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John, early on I heard of this device but despite all the supposed detailed drawings etc that are supposed to be out here I can find practically nothing... do you have a link.
DaVeR
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The problem is that there are no details for many of the components.
The detailed drawings are speculations - some the result of a lot of work, especially Paul Potter's: http://website.lineone.net/~aarekhu/index.html
The only replication I've seen is this one by Jorge Resines: http://www.freie-energie.net/index/testatika_galerie01/testatika_galerie01.htm
It looks to be largely based on Paul Potter's ideas.
I've been working on it for a few weeks, but what few results I have are too preliminary to report to the group.
-Steve
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Also search testatika,
http://www.methernitha.com/
http://www.rexresearch.com/testatik/testart.htm
Cliff
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Testatika replication (Score: 1)
by vlad on Saturday, February 26, 2005 @ 21:26:32 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.zpenergy.com | From: "R. D. Catherwood, Esq."
Subject: testatika replication
seen this?
http://www.freie-energie.net/index/testatika_galerie01/testatika_galerie01.htm
=========from the desk of
Randolph D. Catherwood, Esq.
Enthusiast, scholar, adventurer
Catherwood Capital Partners, Ltd.
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From: "Mr. J"
That device is aesthetically beautiful!
Here is an interesting link too:
http://website.lineone.net/~aarekhu/report99.htm
If it worked or not I would love to have one just on its beauty alone! Gorgeous, simply gorgeous...
- j -
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Sure looks cool, but I see *lots* of enclosed spaces to hide batteries that could easily put out up to a few hundred watts for the duration of a typical demo for the flock of sheep about to be shorn. A bunch of lithium primary (nonrechargable) batteries hidden here and there could easily do it, and they'd be light enough to not be noticed.
Not to mention there's no way to know what might be behind those walls or underneath the floor.
--Phil Karn
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[Eric Krieg]: I've even gotten videos in the mail of this kind of stuff - years ago in fact. The source is usually hid behind a few layers of confidentiality.
[Phil Karn]: And they probably all came with the very same challenge: "Okay, Mr. Skeptic Debunker, I *DEMAND* that you *PROVE* this is a fake. If you can't, then it must be real! Nyah nyah!"
[Eric Krieg]: A still picture can never be conclusive. I've heard for years of the Swiss cult that has the testatika device that no one is allowed to conclusively test. I think more than a decade these stories have been going around. The pictures l recently looked at could have easily had a regular outlet behind them.
Say you have a FE device and you want to put out anonymous better proof than anyone ever has - this is what you do: Have the device on a thin sheet of plexiglass raised up off the floor on empty glass jars, have running small clocks all around in view, have a radio going, make any enclosed areas as small as possible, run a conventional bright light bulb. Video the whole thing from all angles including always at least one clock reading out seconds. Pan the cameracorder continuously with no breaks all around the device while it operates for a few minutes pretty much showing the device from every possible angle (so there are no unseen areas like the testaika pictures - then just leave the camera on fixed recording the clocks moving and the lights brightly glowing till the tape runs out - if the camera can feed into a VHS running long play - that could be 6 hours. Also in sight would be a stereo with moving audio bar graphs tuned to a live station heard in the audio track.
[Phil Karn]: Still not nearly good enough. The device could easily receive external power inductively or even by beamed RF from a nearby source. Think what you could do with a salvaged microwave magnetron if you are careful not to stand in the way (think of the hapless technician trying to disconnect the M5 computer in the old Star Trek episode "The Ultimate Computer"). Haven't there already been some free energy fakes along these lines?
There's simply no way, in this age of computer video editing and compositing, that a video tape or any other recording made by and under the control of the claimant could possibly prove *anything*. Any proper black-box test must be hands-on by someone other than the inventor and his agents, and it must include precautions such as screen rooms to isolate the device from the ambient electromagnetic environment. The testing should also be done in a neutral facility, not one controlled by the inventor; this would have stopped Keely's fraud in its tracks, for example.
Once you've precluded all external energy sources, you then have to rule out hidden internal energy storage. This can only be done by running the device long enough to generate more energy than can be stored by any known technology.
For example, if the device weighs 10 kg and is measured to produce considerably more than 500 watt-hours, then you can probably exclude hidden lead-acid batteries (roughly 50 watt-hr/kg). If it produces more than 1000 watt-hours, then you can rule out hidden nickel metal hydride
(NiMH) batteries, and so on. Once you've ruled out batteries, which have relatively low energy densities, you'll have to rule out heat engines burning chemical fuels. But don't overlook non-chemical storage schemes, such as flywheels.
Problem is, if you want to positively exclude *every* known energy storage technology, you would have to run the device for a *very* long time because this would include such exotic stuff as radioisotope thermal generators! So a conclusive demonstration of true "free energy" by black box testing seems pretty elusive.
On the other hand, just the development and demonstration of an energy storage system with significantly greater specific energy density than existing technologies can provide would in itself be commercially quite valuable; think about electric cars.
[Eric Krieg]: It still could be faked but it would be difficult if the image includes a number of clocks and if the audio track includes a live radio feed.
I've asked the people who make FE video proof to move up to my proposed higher standard of video proof years ago to no effect.
[Phil Karn]: Why should they? They seem to hook plenty enough victims with things just as they are.
[Eric Krieg]: For years now, many people have said they have here and now evidence of working FE - I just don't see real proof. Forget about the hands on demonstration I would expect to award my 10K$ prize - even a self runner device doesn't seem to be available. If I had the real thing, I would want to document it in a way to remove all doubt.
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Re: Testatika Generator Info (Score: 1)
by mojo on Sunday, February 27, 2005 @ 13:13:13 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Hi,
These guys are secretive. They claim the world is not ready for free energy. If they really have a free energy device let them reveal it. If they do, and don't reveal it, they are really ignorant.
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Re: Testatika Generator Info (Score: 1)
by spacedrive on Monday, February 28, 2005 @ 19:32:13 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Sounds like Joseph Nueman redux. |
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