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Resonant Transfer of Energy
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2005 @ 20:00:30 GMT by vlad
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In the hydrino yahoo group Drew M. writes:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Carrell"
Subject: Resonant Transfer Range
Among the important features of Mills' reactions is the resonant transfer of energy from a hydrogen atom to catalyst atom(s). There has been discussion of the mechanism and range.
After a bit of consultation with an expert in EM theory and practice, an interesting model emerges from the performance of antennas. A resonant antenna, tuned to the frequency of the ambient EM field, can extract from that field more energy that is contained in the volume defined by the physical size of the antenna. A resonant antenna re-radiates energy intercepted by it, which in turn affects the nature of the ambient field for some distance.
It should be noted that an excited atom radiates light whose wavelength is much greater than the size of the atom itself. Similarly, it can be excited by light of a 'resonant' wavelength, that wavelength itself again being much larger than the atom.
For the critical energy of 27.2 eV, the wavelength is about 45 nm, whereas the radius of a hydrogen atom is in the range of 0.1 nm, a ratio of 100:1. The commentaries I have read about the antenna effect relates to near fields, perhaps a quarter wavelength in extent, which suggests a range of some 10 nm for the effect. My reference told me that the effective size can be hundreds or a thousand times the atom radius. As it is a 'near field' effect, radiated photons are not involved.
So here is a different perspective, which is consistent with the existence of energetic plasmas in BLP cells.
Mike Carrell
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Mike,
You are on the right track in several respects. 1) Antenna theory is a useful model. (I'm confirming Jones reply [8836]to "Jim's" discouraging comments [8835].) While QM may say that electrons "jump," in reality, they may make 1e20 cycles before that jump is complete. (This is the difference between a mathematical and an experimental physicist's views - - although Feynman addressed this point, on the "length" of a photon, in his "lectures.")
2) An atom in free space (or in matter) can "swallow" a photon many orders of magnitude larger than it is. The collapse of the photon into an orbiting electron is addressed similarly to the manner in which Feynman addressed scattering. An antenna can collect energy in this manner even from the portion of a wave front that has passed it by.
While the radius of a photon is easily derived, I've never seen it done in any of the courses that I've had or books that I've read. Neither have I seen a satisfying description of the process of photon emission or absorption.
3) As to your point about radiated photons in the near field, I have argued with MIT professors about this. (I was working on resonant photo-energy transfer across sub-micron gaps.) They insist that, since the subject is covered by quantum electro-dynamics, photons are involved (by definition), albeit (perhaps) by considering the EM fields to be a superposition of photons. However, they have modeled the near-field as being dominated by "longitudinal" photons (which have no energy, but can convey energy). Since QED is very accurate, they can "interpret" the mechanism any way they want to. (I am much more comfortable about considering the effect to be a field phenomenon.) Nevertheless, for point sources, the near-field energy transfer increases with diminishing spacing as 1/r^3. Time permitting, we will publish this work. Whether or not the same approximations hold when orbits overlap (e.g., in the sub-nm region), I do not know - but I hope to pursue this with them.
Drew M.
BTW The MIT professors don't believe in sub-ground state levels. However, since I have derived them in a manner independent of Mill's, I do. They simply cannot be reached by single photon processes from the ground state (0 -> 0 is a forbidden transition). The close-coupling, with a catalyst, bypasses this limitation.
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Re: Resonant Transfer of Energy (Score: 1)
by Rob (rob@zpenergy.com) on Sunday, January 09, 2005 @ 06:26:41 GMT
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.zpenergy.com | Resonance induced cross-section enlargement seems to be not only a feature of atoms but of macroscopic structures as well, as shown by the Bohren experiment (which Tom Bearden reiterates time and time again).
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